We need to break the record! Lets get Minnesota on the map for 2010!
Last year Minnesota had 12 tea parties [that we know of] on April 15th, 2009
http://teapartymn.com/past-tea-party-events/tax-day-tea-party/
We had a tremendous amount of help. I could not have done it without Cinn and Jeanette Cope. There were many organizers and we also worked very hard on the St. Paul Rally with Margaret Lee, Dave Johannes, Young Republicans, and many, many more wonderful hard working people.
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Your Representatives need to hear from you!
Did you know that the correspondence they receive from you is scored? Yep, they have to keep track of it and report it to Washington, DC.
Your in person visit gets the highest score! Yes! That is right! If you can’t get an appointment, show up anyway! Heck they keep better hours than most churches! 8-5 Monday thru Friday! Stop by at lunch any day of the week! They will be there! Bring your letter of concern! Don’t use someone elses words, use your own! No cheating! This is too important.
Organize in your own neighborhood! If you find a group that is behaving top down they are not grass roots!
You can hold book clubs, meetings regarding city, school board, county and state fiscal accountability or many other types of meetings on local, county, state related issues. Hold classes on how to be a precinct captain or poll watcher, participate in your party, how to talk to your representatives, constitution or technology classes. Email your event to me and we will try to get it posted. Contact toni@movingmn.com
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Rochester Tea Party Patriots in action!
Eric Odom at taxdayteaparty.com explains why we should try to make some cash through this movement: “entrepreneurs have created a means through which they can pay some bills through their activism.”
http://taxdayteaparty.com/2010/02/tea-party-profiteers/
If you are actually working, yes!
If you are spamming the legitimate organizers website and redirecting people to you when you are not actually organizing but have affiliate links and just trying to flow people thru your revenue generating turnstile, and it is all about you… then I would say you need to CHECK yourself!
Also, MANY organizers have been battling this since day one. Some assaults come from the parties themselves and some just from folks that need to make a living locally and nationally.
If the local organizers are getting to the point where they are making money so be it. They have worked hard for it!
But the national groups keep selling out and that is why some are being rejected.
Two movements going here! One of them is using the other! Can you guess who is using who? Hmmmmm
Thur, Feb. 4th, 2010,10 a.m. South entrance to State office bldg, across Rice Street from Sears. WE THE PEOPLE will be assembling to excersize our 1st amendment rights, encourage state reps to support our constitutional options as provided in the 10th amendment to the constitution! Join us. Stand Up For Liberty! See, MN. Sovereignty Project.
Here’s a good follow up article on the recent Campaign Financing Ruling by the Supreme Court by Judge Napolitano.
It does a good job of clearing up some of the claims about what the ruling does.
For example, foreign governments and foreign corporations are NOT allowed to take advantage of this new ruling contrary to statements going around including the State of the Union address which is likely what triggered the “Not True” remark from Alito:
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=570
Republicans met in Hawaii last week and met with Governor Linda Lingle (Republican gov of Hawaii). Does anything think a single Republican had the guts to ask her why she doesn’t show Obama’s real birth certificate? The conspiracy of silence in the GOP is frightening. If Obama had a birth certificate in Hawaii, why wouldn’t Gov Lingle just show it?
Oh, I’m sure they got their staffers combing the Hawaiian hospitals like they were lawyers hunting for dirt on Palin in Alaska (lol)
So sad to hear Michele Bachmann is turning her back on Tea Party Nation. Is she driving a wedge for the ultimate advancement of Republicans over Tea Party?
Tea Party Nation was not a grass roots event! Michele absolutely did the right thing! No grass roots tea party patriot could afford $500 ticket then travel and hotel. Sorry! NONE of us who have been grass roots from the start, busting our buts paying out of our own pocket thought that TPN was right to represent themselves as anything other than a FUND RAISER and for what? Who knows. TPN came along in August, 2009… hopefully they realize that the movement is bottom up and not top down. People do not want to be solicited to. They are organizing in their neighborhoods! Put your self on a shelf and lets TEA PARTY!
I think it was the wise move on her part.
Much the of the true grass roots groups out there are rejecting the convention seeing it as an attempt at hijacking the Liberty Movement with $550 tickets and $100,000 speaking fees.
The best comment I heard about those speaking at the TPP Convention was that (paraphrase): “The speakers aren’t the same people you’d find marching in the streets”
In general, I think the effectiveness of conventions are overblown since it’s IDEAS that fix problems (and those can be debated and promoted in blogs like this, not limited to multi million dollar convention centers only).
Interesting. I was not aware of the $500+ tickets. “Tea Party” should not become a brand name.
America Rising: Open letter to Democratic Politicians,To The Makers of this video; Thank-you, very well done! As you may guess. I did not vote for Hussein Obomba. I did not vote for Insane McCain either. Betty McCollum knows that health care is not a “right,” That is why she proposed an amendment to the Constitution. She really cares about you and the future of our freedom. Can’t you see the Fascist programming in the colors and the art they use. Look into the light, over the hill; everything will be better tomorrow because we have, “HOPE.” Gridlock in the House and Senate is far better than growing a tyrannical government bigger. The establishment welfare state has been moving to destroy families and individuality for decades. Just look up Charlotte Iserbyt. Our world will be safer with the naked body scanners everywhere. Just give up your liberty for security. Just don’t carry cash. We’ll never have to worry about crazy underwear bombers. I don’t think many people trusted Harry Pelosi to begin with. He speaks the truth about Hussein Obomba. That man is not really black and doesn’t speak in Ebonics. Since the Marxist Chris Matthews wants to make everything about race, the puppet black face of the New World Order is only about 7% African. We have the first Arab president. Let’s abolish Christmas, and make HaunaRammaKwanzmas a national holiday. Astro-Turf Nazi Nancy, you are part of the crime syndicate too. The AMA sold out; the MNA sold out. The Mack Daddy announces a spending freeze that will not take effect until 2011 after this, “jobs” bill, (”Just Over Broke”), that is really a second stimulus bill because, “The best way to rob a bank is to own one.” So for now we will continue to fund the illegal and immoral occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan and dump our depleted uranium on those brown people. Cindy Sheehan has woke up to the false left. Where is the anti-war left? Pat Tillman knows. Another victim of “friendly fire.” Have you ever heard of the golden triangle? T.E.A.=Taxed Enough Already! For those of you who think the “Tea-baggers,” are on the fringe right. Why did Jim Trafficant get railroaded? For speaking out against the illegal 16th Amendment and the Internal Robbery Squad? Or was it the Jewish lobby Rahm? No fly-No buy! Where do your loyalties lie? Remember the U.S.S Liberty! The Freshman Democrat Alan Grayson may want socialized medicine, at least he’s not afraid to speak out against the fed. I’m writing this now before Cass Sunstein, Google, the ignorant people of CA, and Hitlary ban freedom of speech.
Not one word from your faux populist mouth about the Supreme C0urt ruling that will allow artificial persons; corporations – to inject unlimited money into our elections. Even foreign dictatorships will be allowed to try and buy our elections.
The founding fathers had no intention of giving corporations the right of personhood! That was their original intent and the lawless gang of five on the Supreme Court do not give a damn. There was also no debate when the 14th Amendment was adopted that Congress intended for corporations to have the same or superiour rights of citizens!
The classic definition of fascism is the “merger of government and the corporations into a unitary executive”. In fascist Italy, the state created the Council of the Corporations which took power and governed without the consent of the people. We are no closer to the adoption of this type of fascisim than ever before.
You Tea Bagers people need to wake up about the REAL threats to our liberty!
What are you talking about?
@Gene
The ruling was limited to corporations and unions because that’s what was being reviewed. Would’ve preferred that it removed all blocks on personal donations as well.
This ruling doesn’t change much since it means corporations go from funneling millions into campaigns through bundling to now out in the open.
To think that the ‘08 half a BILLION dollar election was paid for by $50 donations is pretty naive, not to mention it a case of the kettle calling the pot black, especially when it comes to taking money from unfriendly regimes.
Remember Hillary’s Hong Kong dual US citizen guy busted for peddling influence through bundling of donations from large corporations filtered through designated individual donors?
In addition to that Gore and the Clinton’s regularly made trips to places like Saudi Arabia giving speeches about how bad America is in return for big time campaign donations. The Clinton’s aren’t worth over $100 million for nothing.
Then there was BO’s buddy Rezco from Chicago who he had the shady land deal with. It’s important to note that one month before the deal, Rezco received $3.5 million from the Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi billionaire with ties to the Saddam Regime who had been previously convicted in one of the largest money laundering scams in European history.
His passport was revoked in the US as a result and two unnamed US Senators lobbied to get it reinstated but failed in their efforts.
But like many other tails of corruption, little follow up investigation was done.
Article: “Obama Should Come Clean On Ayers, Rezko And the Iraqi Billionaire”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122005063234084813.html
Then you throw in that half of BO’s donor list still is withheld and you’re likely to see a lot of foreign donors.
Oh yeah and it removes the unfair Mainstream Media advantage that always favors one side of the political spectrum over the other.
The MSM served as the de facto campaign machine when the 30 day cut off on specific ads prior to the election kicked in, which is what spurred the Supreme Court ruling in response to a complaint about being blocked from airing “Hillary, The Movie”
McCain was no gem, but I can remember hearing radio ads talking about how he voted against a military spending bill while omitting the fact that he did so because it included a withdrawal timetable.
So, he ended up getting snagged by his own funding rule that limited the donations he could bring in that further sabotaged his presidential bid which has a nice irony to it.
@Gene
Who are you talking to? I don’t know what a Tea Bagger is. I, for one, share your concern over the anthropomorphizing of corporations into citizens. I have not looked too closely at the ruling or its context. I need to. Insticnctively, I suspect it does not truly relate to Freedom of Speech. But I don’t know enough to say one way or the other at the moment. At any rate, if you’re genuinely interested in promoting discussion on the subject, you may want to consider adjusting your tone.
@Walter
I think one of the advantages will be that it becomes much easier for local groups to pool their money together and air their own ads compared to a lot of bureaucracy that goes with 527-C’s
Before, the 30 day limit would keep normal people from speaking out through purchasing/donating all the while a large corporation like GE was able to sidestep the 30 day funding rule by simply having the editorial content presented in a way that there would be no difference between it and a paid ad.
So that part is a PLUS.
A big NEGATIVE will be how this ruling impacts a grass roots ballot initiative to block state employee unions from spending their dues on political lobbying which is a major part of why California (and other states) continue to sink.
http://unplugthepoliticalmachine.ning.com/
Gene,
It is best to keep ones mouth shut when one knows not what they speak. There are and always were laws preventing foreign companies, people,countries,etc from making donations. Your president was 100 % wrong and is now trying to say that he meant subsidiaries? The to disgrace the Supreme Court ? This is a true dictator and you lambs dont see it. What a joke money has ALWAYS funneled in through means unknown your progressive(socialists) are good making that happen through groups like ACORN.
As for calling us tea baggers you are a very low class individual – typical progressive, using foul remarks instead of facts. Grow up read the law, read the Constitution, learn what you are talking about and then maybe, just maybe your talk will be worth listenting to. Until then go back in your hole .
January 25, 2010 (LPAC)–On Saturday, Jan. 30, 2010, Lyndon LaRouche will address the nation and the world in a 1 PM Eastern, 10 AM Pacific webcast. LaRouche has just returned from Europe, where he promoted his Four Powers proposal for a United States alliance with Russia, China and India, to establish a new international credit system, and launch a global physical economic recovery.
LaRouche will address the Obama Administration’s efforts to impose murderous austerity upon the United States through a thoroughly unconstitutional national commission to impose cuts on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and veterans benefits. This drive, if successful, would guarantee the destruction of the United States as we know it. Under Depression conditions, any efforts to impose austerity is a bottomless spiral to Hell.
The American people have spoken clearly, most recently in Massachusetts, that they want nothing of President Obama or anyone who would impose murderous policies. The question most clearly on the table, that LaRouche will address on Saturday is this: Will the American people rally behind a real alternative policy, to defeat the power of Wall Street and London, and start the nation and the world back on the track of a long-term economic recovery, based on the most advanced scientific and technological principles, implemented through collaboration among sovereign nation states?
If you want to assure the survival of your children and grandchildren, if you want to be an active participant in history, you will not want to miss LaRouche’s Jan. 30 webcast at 1 PM Eastern, 10 AM Pacific. Accessible at http://www.larouchepac.com
Not a fan of any international economic effort or otherwise.
Keep in mind these are the same folks that think the solution to “climate change”
is getting as much of your tax money as possible through any means.
Not something reasonable like natural gas which costs and pollutes far less than gasoline or ethanol.
Some have being saying for the last year that the whole point of tanking the US Economy was to force everyone to jump on board with a new international system, which would never have been necessary if we simply cut spending to pull ourselves out of much of this mess.
It might be interesting to research LaRouche’s donors/connections.
I agree. Obama’s murderous intent will result in the destruction of the United States and a bottomless spiral to Hell. In the face of such murderous policies, what action would not be justifiable to save our children and grandchildren? You know what we have to do.
What?
Are Alexander Hamilton and Pat “plants” on this site?
This is an idiotic idea, the latest in a long line of too big to fail solutions.
Your solution to a “murderous intent” is to ally with Russia and China who have quite the record for murderous intents in their own countries. Just ask any Russian critic or reporter.
The whole concern about the current policies is that they’re designed to collapse the US Economy, eroding sovereignty and forcing us into exactly this kind of an international deal where those issuing credit have even less accountability.
There are so much easier things to do like a concerted effort to get business and economics education going in public schools and for the general population to reverse the direction we’re headed that preserve US Sovereignty and don’t increase the long list of “leaders” who refuse to listen to those who pay their salaries.
Have you looked up this guy’s bio? If half of it’s true, BO got’s a serious rival for socialist pursuits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche
Sure, he doesn’t like the current Health care bill which might be why you’ve gravitated to him, but he’s a major advocate of a single payer system.
His bio covers years hanging out with Soviets, Maoists, Anarchists, and stints as a “cult leader”
Check your facts or at least take the time and admit you’re here on this site under false pretenses.
This guy would terrify and infuriate the real “Alexander Hamilton” so you should stop using that moniker when referencing this LaRouche guy.
“Michael” is an avatar for Chip Berlet, who has been slandering patriots for 20 years, and recently wrote a book about “right wing populism”.
I’m as much a plant for whoever this “Chip” guy is as you are for “BO”
But again, this LaRouche guy is a certifiable nut, look him up. He’s another long line of pseudo intellectuals that come up with these large and bizarre plans to impose laws and regulations in the name of stopping big corporations, etc. that our filled with potential for fraud and abuse.
Want to stop big government and big corporations? Start teaching business and economics in public schools for a start. Knowledge is power.
This way when someone is offered a $10,000 loan at NO money down with low APR, they’ll realize they’re being told: “Try this, the first hits free”
ANYONE who says the solution to one big bureaucratic bully like the Federal Government is an even larger unaccountable International Bureaucracy is no friend of liberty.
All problems can be solved with simple determination and steps taken in each of our own lives.
This if for DUG and anyone else interested. Dug wrote a reply regarding Mike Cummings, candidate for Oberstars 8th district seat. Said he seemed conservative but needed to research further. permalinkHeres the website for Mike Cummings. (Candidate for 8th district) http://www.cumminsforcongress.com/
This is his opening: Pro-Life · Pro-Land Rights · Pro-2nd Amendment · Pro-Drilling. Haven’t read more. Would appreciate posts from anyone interested in exploring more. I’m in metro suburbs, but my father was from the Iron Range, Cook MN Vermillion lake area. I have alot of family up there. While their values would always appear to have been more conservative they have always voted Democrat. Theres that old Hoover, “Republicans dont’ care for the little guy, Roosevelt and his heirs are champions of the working man” mentality. I have heard some frustration with city environmental liberals telling them what to do with their land. Beating Oberstar would be a longshot but idea interests me. Might be interested in working on a campaign, if from afar. Is anyone here from the 8th District?
First time here. Any information on how to get involved in local movement would be appreciated. May attend local Rebublican caucuses next week. Was invoved in south metro at a senate district level for a small amount of time awhile ago.
Yes, there are people on “here” from the 8th Cong. dist., even those that are attempting to give “Overspender” a run for his (union) money. I met that snake a few weeks ago at a county commissioner meeting… he is such a lying, twisting puke. You should have heard him attempt to weasel out of the county admin’s question of why other counties in the 8th district got more money that our county did…
During the Vietnam War I was an anti-war protester. There were many reasons to be against that war. Whether it was civilian micro-managing of it, that there wasn’t a desire to win the war, that it was a civil war we had no buisness being involved in, or that our “allies” the South Vietnamese government was so corrupt it made the city of Chicago look honest in comparison are just some the reasons to be against that fiasco.
Now I am a supporter of the Tea Parties. My active participation in both protests was and is as American and patriotic as is possible! This country was created by men who had the courage to risk their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor in a war against the what at the time was the world’s super power, Great Britian. Any and all protests against our government are patriotic. The ones I disagree with are the ones whose right to protest I will gladly support. I support their right to protest because freedom is not limited to popular ideas or only ones that I like. The more unpopular an idea is or the more I dislike it the more I will defend their right to protest. Those who have the courage to get out and protest for what they believe in are the real Americans!
Where are the people of color in this video? Is this (as I suspect) a racist website?
I suspect your are projecting your racism! Sorry, you don’t define any of us. We don’t define you! So what are you all up in arms about? There are plenty of black conservatives in the tea party movement.
I suspect you are just looking for a fight for “suspecting” we are racist.
The KKK founder Tom Metzger is working with Farrakhan and the New Black Panther Party but is worst is that they originated from the Nazi’s and they are communist and socialists which better fits the Dummycrooks. Here is Metzger speaking at a NBPP meeting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ5OHDJ_9FQ&feature=player_embedded#
Are you a truth seeker or trouble maker?
Well, I think historically there were no blacks at the original tea party. I don’t think any women either, but I might be wrong.
Also, what is this “tea partier” stuff? Face it, you’re just simple protestors. You’re nothing special; no different than war protestors. No different than the protestors at the Twin Cities Republican convention. You can make it sound noble by calling yourself a partiot or lover of freedom, but at the end of the day you’re nothing more than common protestors. I have no problem with protestors, but I do think it’s silly that grown ups are trying make themselves seem better and more patriotic than other protestors (who you probably ridiculed when they were out with their chants and signs against wars) with titles like tea partiers.
Michael: the subject may change, but the protestor is still the protestor. And remember, war protestors ar also part of “We the People.” Their voice counts too.
@Dave
Yes, you’re referring to the primarily libertarian part of the Liberty Movement when you talk about previous anti-war groups rolling joining this effort.
Let me provide what I’m defining as a “protester” vs. a “patriot”
A protester will spend all day long shouting “NO!” to a bad idea, but at the end of the day when the choice comes down to “NO! IDEA” and a BAD IDEA, the bad idea will almost always win out because there’s at least some kind of plan.
A patriot starts with “NO!” and follows up with a SOLUTION, in the case of health care removing the ban on interstate commerce to lower costs and improve care through competition.
It’s the reason why $50 per month gets you $25,000 in collision coverage, because there’s choice instead of the current state insurance monopolies which have caused much of the health insurance problems.
@bringhomethepoliticians.com
That’s an interesting distinction. I agree with the underlying sentiment, that some kind of plan is considered preferable to none. However, I do not think it true that some plan actually is always better than none. I, for one, love legislative gridlock. When the Congress or a state legislature can’t get anything done, in my mind, that’s a good thing. This idea that something must be done in response to every imperfection, or that every problem must be somehow solved, is how we get Big Government. The best recent example I can think of is this Detroit bomber situation. Instead of looking at the existing system and ackn0wledging it did not work as intended, in order to look like “something is being done,” they change the system, add to it, make life for law-abiding citizens more difficult, etc. If the existing system was not being executed properly, which it unquestionably wasn’t, then why will crafting a new one which will be executed by the same flawed people and institutions be better? I think all levels of government could benefit from adopting the axiom “S#!+ happens” and accepting not every problem requires some huge new bureaucracy to solve.
No, bringhomethepoliticians, I am not referring to war protestors joing this PROTEST movement. Some may have, but that’s not the point. Many of the war protestors I met had a solution: bring the troops home. I was not particulary in agreement to that, but it was an option they were pushing, so you are wrong in saying they did not propose an alternative. It’s better than the inane shout of “vote them all out!” What then? You get rid of the politicians, but you’re still stuck with the constituency, which, you might be surprised to know, has a variety of opinions and demands. The next batch of politicians (unless you prefer some tea party dictator) will have to address their needs, and some of them may have needs contrary to your’s. I know you think that’s unfair, but too bad. Welcome to America.
As far as solutions, it appears you protestors want the federal government to interfere in states rights and the judicial system. Kind of ironic.
@Dave
“Bring Home The Troops” wasn’t/isn’t a realistic solution because you still have bad people out there who will become that more emboldened no matter how many of them are simply working for the CIA according to Alex Jones, etc.
Not to mention the potential for killing fields that make the current civilian deaths a walk in the park.
The over all theme being nature abhors a vacuum and things will only get worse that way.
Conversely, I don’t believe our current strategy is ideal either because just like our response to any attack is to fight back harder, it’s the same story for the other side as well upping the ante.
We actually agree on “Voting them all out” as an equally short sighted answer and BRING HOME THE POLITICIANS is meant as a solution to both problems with one simple and powerful solution.
Terrorists and Dictators are the byproducts of other very weak or very centralized governments.
By relocating (the equivalent in other countries to) US Reps to our our Districts, US Sens to our State Capitals and State Reps & Sens to our City Halls/Courthouses to securely telecommute for no less than 75% of their terms while WE SURROUND THEM it implements an upgrade to our system that truly balances local and Federal power.
Art 1, Sec 4 and Art 1, Sec 5, Clause 2 & 4 allow for this.
Likewise it will go a long way to fixing the corruption, incompetence, etc. with our current government.
And because telling other countries what to do has run thin at this point, it’s best we lead by example to accomplish spreading this concept abroad.
Best of all, it greatly diminishes party power with focus put on the individual congress person as opposed to party allegiance with party bosses now hundreds to thousands of miles away compared to the opposite situation now.
So, you can see how this will benefit those across the political spectrum.
When a liberal cannot refute what a conservative says or defeat a conservative in an argument the liberal resorts to calling the conservative and conservativism racist. Whenever that happens what the liberal has done is show that they have lost the argument by having to resort to calling conservatives names. Thank you Jon for showing that you don’t have a valid argument by having to call conservatives racists.
@ Dave
I’d say there are many differences between the Liberty Movement (tea, 912, etc.) and previous protesters.
Anti-war protesters NEVER stopped anything from Iraq, the Surge, Afghanistan, time tables, or anything else of substance.
“It ain’t over til it’s over”, but it looks like this health care bill has been stopped and that’s in large part to months of grassroots opposition.
Also, the Liberty Movement is both highly organized and made up of autonomous groups compared to previous protest movements who often had to be paid to take to the streets.
Here you go. Happy?
@ Walter
I actually see the “Sh@t Happens” attitude as being pro big government ultimately.
ObamaCare is just HillaryCare retooled (of course the current one is much more of an insurance bailout than anything else).
Back in ‘92-’93, Americans said: “We don’t want your nationalized healthcare, Sh@t happens, deal with it” and that worked for a generation while the health system got more and more expensive because competition was removed more and more in health insurance.
And here we are with a new generation that’s more inclined to say “Gimme!” than “Sh@t Happens” which has fueled the current push. Had the ban on INTERSTATE COMMERCE for health insurance been removed back in ‘94 you’d have high quality care at a low cost like with car insurance.
But I will say that I believe the simplest solution is almost always the best solution, and I think they’re is a better alternative to gridlock which is to BRING HOME THE POLITICIANS (hence the moniker) which will relocate US Reps to our Local Districts, US Senators to our State Capitals, and State Reps & Sens to our City Halls/Courthouses to securely telecommute while WE SURROUND THEM (Art 1, Sec 4 and Art 1, Sec 5, Clause 2 & 4 allow for this).
Here’s a clip where they talked about this concept of an “eCongress”:
@bringhomethepoliticians.com
Your point is well taken. Mine presumes nothing good comes out of Congress and therefore nothing is preferable to anything. But it is certainly true correct action needs to be taken.
Still, I feel there is a cultural tendency which has developed in our nation toward taking action just to say action was taken. You see it all the time in the business world. The desire to appear responsive often supersedes sober deliberation prior to action. Look at health care, in the wake of the Brown victory, you have Democrats talking about how they have to pass “something.” It doesn’t matter what it is. They just have to pass “something,” because they’ve been working on it for so long and it will look bad to have accomplished nothing. Never mind if what passes helps or hurts. That’s the tendency I would combat with a “s#!+ happens” attitude. Doing “something” is not as important as doing the right thing. If the right thing can’t happen, nothing is preferable.
@Walter
Agreed that they are just trying to pass “something” in the name of their party instead of the people.
I just think there is a potential opportunity to tell them:
“Your party leaders have betrayed you and you’re obviously on your own. Why not emerge as a hero of the citizens you were elected represent by removing the ban on INTERSTATE COMMERCE to lower costs and improve care without spending BILLION$ in tax dollars.
This is the kind of simple solution Americans are demanding, not more failed big government/big corporate/anti-taxpayer solutions”
This way they get their “something” and we get much of the health insurance problem fixed.
Does anyone know who is running against Oberstar? We NEED a good candidate to unseat this parasite.
James Oberstar (D) 241,800 67.7%
Michael Cummins (R) 114,864 32.2%
Jeff,
I met Michael and briefly spoke to him about a month ago. He is the only one ever to get more than 100k votes against Oberstar (since 1974). He has a good relationship with the media and gets on many shows, both radio and TV. Former Union member. I got the feeling he was a conservative. Much more than Oberstar anyhow but more research needs to be done on this. I agree. Oberstar needs to pack his bags. After last night in Mass, we could do it!!!
DUG
Another REPUBLICAN???
I think Cummins will have a better shot at appealing to the overall electorate by promoting a nonpartisan solution like eCongress that doesn’t benefit the right anymore than the left.
http://bringhomethepoliticians.com
There is another person running against him, as a Republican, I believe. Navy vet and a self-proclaimed protestor. He was on local radio in Duluth las tweek. Didn’t say much new or enlightening other than he is a protestor. I think there is a Green Party candidate too; I think they’re ticked that Oberstar supports the Polymet program.
This is an open letter to all Tea Party Conservatives.
On February 2nd the political process will begin. All poltical parties will hold their precinct caucuses to determine their platforms and choose their candidates. You have a choice of which political party’s precinct caucus you will attend. It is my opinion that if those of us in the Tea Party want to have a voice we should attend the Republican Party precinct caucuses. Many of you will want to go to a third party precinct caucus because of your very legitimate frustration with the GOP. I am tempted to do that myself but won’t for one very simple reason. Third parties hurt the party that are left in protest. Look at the example of the election contest between Sen. Norm Coleman, Al Franken and Dean Barkley. If Coleman had received even 10% of the votes that went to Barkley Al Franken would not be our US Senator. Without Franken in the Senate the Democrats would not have had 60 Senators to invoke cloture and move Pres. Obama’s un-Constitutional health care reform bill closer to being passed.
The Tea Party movement is strong enough to take over the GOP. That is what, I beleive, we should do. None of the collection of third parties out there have the power to win elections. All they can do is act as spoilers. If we take over the GOP we can make it the conservative party it once was and should be. Do we want to be a permanent minority party or do we want to be the majority party we should be? The decision is yours to make and which party’s precinct caucus you go to will determine what conservativism’s future will be. Are we to be the majority or the minority party? GOP or third party. The choice is yours.
It is so confusing…
I am still fuming at the people who are horrified with the current Administration but voted them in by actually voting for him or by just not voting at all.
On the other hand… there is so much corruption, I am not sure if they are not the same party!
Life is what THEY Matrix? or Life is what WE make it?
I have considered joining the Democrat party just to help them with their PRO LIFE message and besides, they did it to the Republican party, the communists and socialists have infiltrated all parties, etc. [been going on for about 250 years].
Anyway still trying to understand why WE LET THEM sell us out like they do!
I don’t think figuring it all out is that complicated.
We all got complacent with our comfortable “single mouse click” lifestyles that enabled the wolves among us to take advantage of that.
It’s important to elect better Congress members in 2010, of course, but in order to reverse the tide of big government, citizens outside of government need to be the trailblazers of new solutions to deal with everything from health care to terrorism.
I couldn’t agree with you more Bryan. The parties are just infrastructure. What is done with them depends on the people in them. We can’t say the GOP won’t work when we haven’t tried to make it work. When ALL OF US can say we’ve caucused, we’ve gotten involved, and we’ve tried our best to get traction and failed, then we can talk third parties. But most people don’t even know about caucus.
It’s the protest movement
Visit Minnesota Tea Party Patriots
Four Articles of Impeachment.
Under the U.S. Constitutional system, the purpose of impeachment is the protection of the nation, by removing from high office a Federal official who is causing grave injury to the nation, its people, and its Constitution. Impeachment is not a criminal proceeding; its purpose is not to punish a wrongdoer, but to prevent him or her from doing further, irreparable harm to the country. The question of prosecution, or imprisonment, comes later—if at all.
The U.S. Constitution sets a high standard for bringing a bill of impeachment against a high public official. The grounds are restricted to “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” The clear intent, as a review of the discussions by the Founders at the Constitutional convention indicates, was to target crimes against the Constitutional order. The bills of impeachment against President Richard Nixon put it well, when they declared, in each count, that “In all of this, Richard M. Nixon has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.”
President Obama’s crimes dwarf those of Richard Nixon.
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/13091
Was not Mr. Setoro involved in bribery when he signed a bill giving money directly to UAW members… in trade for the financial support they had given willingly or unwillingly through union dues taken from every paycheck they got? Or is that “money laundering”… We all know the UAW was saved only due to the unbridled financial backing they give to the DNC. If the auto makers would have been non-union and voted center and a bit to the right, they would have been forced to die on the vine. I could find “pawlenty” of support in our area for impeachment.
The only problem I can see is… Biden is an even bigger idiot… and dangerous.
Recently a friend sent me an excellent short video called: America rising an open letter to Democrats. I hope everyone can see it and share it with others. It appears the Obamabots and U tube have been taking it down.
Tea Party Express III is coming to Minnesota April 8, 2010. Minneapolis, Duluth, Ironwood.
http://www.teapartyexpress.org/tour-schedule-3/
The Next March should be on Wall street!
Tea Party Express is run by former Bush Republians. Are we a Republican organization now?
Going after Wall Street is like targeting the drug dealers in your neighborhood.
It’s going after the Federal Reserve (the drug cartel) that counts.
They’re the ones with all the true money and power.
Please support bringhomethepoliticians.com, Excellent site with great ideas. END THE FED! S. 604 & H.R. 1207
http://www.larouchepac.com/lpactv?nid=13061
Watch video to see Larouche candidate Rachel Brown address 150 Massachusetts Tea Party members about her Democratic Primary campaign against Bailout Barney Frank. In addition, we intervened in Harry Reid’s Nevada fundraiser with banner showing Hitler mustaches on Reid and Obama for their Nazi Health care bill. In San Francisco, candidate Summer Shields held a press conference in front of Nancy Pelosi’s office to announce his Democratic Primary campaign against the Wicked Witch of the West.
TEA PARTY – SUGGESTED NEW YEARS RESOLUTIONS http://tinyurl.com/yd5njgd #teaparty #smartgirl #asamom #tcot #icaucus #npa #tpp #tpptc #tpx #MN
I, like many Americans, have some real concerns with these bills that are making their way through Congress and through the Senate. These bills are being passed with little or no regard to what the people actually want. Since I have always lived my life with the premise that “We The People” can make a difference, I have developed a website, called http://www.voteoutpoliticians.com, where folks can go to learn more about these bills, know how their politicians have voted, and to find out how to contact their Congressmen and Senators.
This website does not and will not contain advertisements of any kind or sell any products or services. It is strictly an informative site. There is even a video on the homepage made by Ray Stevens which pretty much sums up Obamacare.
There is just about 10 months left before the next election and my goal is to make this website available to all voters. Anything you can do to help me achieve this goal would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter.
But please be careful, folks, because that website talks about voting out every incumbent, but there are a still a lot of people in Congress who are good, Christian, conservative folks, and who’ve been fighting for us all along. I mean, it’d be short-sighted to toss out the baby with the bath water, so to speak. Then _everyone_ there would be rookies. In fact, if we could manage to only throw out the rotten apples, that’d leave our existing, decent folks in place as the senior members in both chambers, to take over as chairs on the numerous committees, rewrite House and Senate rules & policies that have been twisted by the Dems. Our folks would be able to leverage the experience they’ve garnered, fighting uphill during this session.
Buried in the hundreds of pages of the bill Reid is ramming through the Senate, in Sec. 3403 dealing with the IMAC (or IMAB), which is a genocide panel equivalent to Hitler’s 1939 “T4″ policy of genocide, Harry Reid was criminal enough to write that no future Senate or House of Representatives would ever be allowed to question the Nazi policy of IMAC, or, exactly as he says there in his own words: “It shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection.” Like Hitler’s “Thousand-Year Reich,” Reid would throw the Constitution overboard to make the IMAC death-panel the unalterable law of the United States forever!
In a recent Facebook posting, according to Politicsdaily.com, Palin cites the pending Senate health bill’s Independent Medicare Advisory Board. This, she writes, “is also known as rationing.” Palin also cited a letter from Congressional Budget Office director Douglas Elmendorf, in which Elmendorf said it was “unclear [how Medicare's spending could be reduced by 2%] whether such a reduction in the growth rate could be achieved, and if so, whether it would be accomplished through greater efficiencies in the delivery of health care, or would reduce access to care or diminish the quality of care.” This is precisely what I meant by “death panel,” she said.
Hey, bub, my PRIVATE healthcare plan is rationing my healthcare. I guess they’re Nazi’s too? Private rationing better than government rationing?
Why not just remove the ban on INTERSTATE COMMERCE for health insurance to lower costs, improve care, and improve choice?
$50 per month gets you $25,000 in collision coverage and people need tune ups just as regularly as people.
By increasing the competition, prices go down and specialty niche insurance companies pop up to handle high risk patients just like in other industries.
Dave writes that his “PRIVATE healthcare plan is rationing [his] healthcare” right now, and angrily wonders if “they’re Nazi’s too?” He goes on to pose a pointed question, and asks: is “[p]rivate rationing better than government rationing?”
No, Dave, your healthcare providers are not Nazis…you are free to choose other providers. If we had a more consumer-driven, free-market-based healthcare delivery system, you’d almost certainly have a vast variety of providers to choose from. Indeed if we had such a system, the cost of nearly every good and service provided by the healthcare industry would be cheaper and better quality.
Yes Dave, I’m sure your private health-care plan is rationing your healthcare. Healthcare is like everything else; it is a limited resource. And like all limited resources it must be rationed. The real-world “ideal” is that you ration your own health care resources; i.e. you decide where to allocate your healthcare dollars. There are many existing free-market proposals that empower you — the healthcare consumer — to make those choices. Through tax-free Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) and myriad other consumer-driven alternatives, the quality of healthcare service will improve and costs will come down.
Yes, private rationing of your healthcare is far better than government-rationing of your healthcare. As mentioned above, because healthcare is a limited resource, it must be rationed by someone. I’d prefer to ration my own healthcare using my own values to decide what is, and what is not, worth the cost of a particular good or service.
The immediate concern is about an individual consumer’s ability to afford any good or service whatsoever from the healthcare industry. The majority of consumers can afford routine healthcare services: e.g. stitches for a cut, a yearly checkup, a colonoscopy, etc. Wealthy and middle-class consumers can purchase catastrophic healthcare coverage to cover financially ruinous health problems: accidents, cancer, etc.
Low-income consumers can have their healthcare costs subsidized by the government. This alternative would be much cheaper than the monstrosity that is the current healthcare legislation being shoved down our throats.
People with chronic illnesses — like myself — can purchase insurance through high-risk insurance pools, much like auto insurance today. The government can act as “referee”, ensuring a fair and level playing field. But the government does NOT have control over what goods and services the consumer ultimately chooses.
As efficiencies in healthcare delivery system are enacted, costs will come down, enabling more people to afford quality health care.
Dave — if you are looking for perfection, you’re looking on the wrong planet, and you’re expecting it from the wrong species.
Dave just doesn’t understand that private business rationing our health care is capitalism but government rationing our health care is fascism. Unless we want fascism, corporations should be allowed to do whatever they want to hold down their costs including rationing health care. It’s just that simple. Unless you want fascism.
Health Care Bill Will Destroy American Libertyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL6M4uMmkbs
Yes, private rationing is better than public rationing. Phrased another way, your having the liberty to make your own choices is better than someone else making them for you.
You are wrong, by the way, about your private insurance provider rationing care. Your insurance company does not decide what care you can and cannot have. What they cover or do not cover has no bearing on whether the care is available to you, only whether it will be paid for through your policy. Any care you need/want is always available, provided you can pay for it. Conversely, under a public rationing scheme, even if you have the money, access to the care is controlled by the government. Based on your comments here, I presume you might prefer the idea of rationing based on some contrived public formula versus rationing based on price. If so, we disagree. That’s fine. But it’s beneficial to accurately understand what you disagree with. Claiming insurance companies ration care shows you do not.
Fellow Patriot!
I am new to this setup so I may not understand all the do and don’ts as yet. However, I am looking for help to step up to the plate take our states back. Please stop by website:
http://www.mnsovereignty.org/calltoaction.html
Pass it on to all you can.
Feel free to contact me at lmoe47@gmail.com
Merry Christmas to all!!
Anyone willing to step up and help???
Thank-you Leon to your continued service to our country and state! I linked up. God Bless, & Happy New Year.
Boys…. I grow tired and weary, as we watch the country slide farther and farther down into the darkness of socialism, servitude and possibly the throws of Islamic fundamentalism. Our Leader fails to confront the reality of his kin folk involved in terrorist and pirate activities. In his address to the nation a few days ago involving the “skivy-bomber” on the Delta flight, he never once said these people are Muslims or Islamic fundamentalists… he used the word extremists… over and over. In his failure to “admit” what we are up against, it is clear he is sympathetic to their cause… after all, his family has a high concentration of Muslims, to deny this you would be fooling yourself.
Richard –
Do not despair for too long. The silver lining in Obama’s election and his sycophantic Congress is that they have unmasked themselves for the Socialists that they are. The Main Stream Media have unmasked themselves also — it is clear to everyone that the MSM is nothing more than a propaganda arm of the Democrats. The MSM is no longer a believable source of unbiased news.
The so-called ’silent majority’ has awakened. Congress will be purged in 2010; the executive branch will be purged in 2012.
Keep the faith. This is going to be a long war for the soul of this country.
Leon –
Step up in what way? Help in what way?
Thanks,
Wayne
Just click on Leons’ name and read his site and help get the word out about mn sovereignty. MSNBC and most of The MSM would like us to think that the 10′th Amendment doesn’t matter. The Tea Party has been co-opted by the main line Republicans, who will only bring us more war, more socialism and more tyranny under the guise of fake conservatism. The Constitution and The 10th Amendment does matter, and if we the people give it teeth and take back our local and state governments, this is where the real power lies. This is where the real fight for Liberty is. Look up Common Purpose, and what is going on in England. We have a set of rules and that is the constitution. The feds want to tell us only what we can do. Let us, We the People, tell them what they can’t do. I believe Leon is the real deal. I urge all Tea Party Patriots to read his site and take action, no matter how small. It does make a difference. The feds would have us think George Washington and defenders of liberty and the Constitution are radicals and extremists. Peace to All. Happy new Year.
ObamaCare
MP3 Audio
You better not cough,
You better not sneeze,
You better not get a fatal disease,
Obama’s keeping healthcare costs down,
He’s making a list,
And checking with NICE,
If keeping you breathing is worth the price,
Obama’s keeping healthcare costs down,
Obamacare is thrifty,
‘Cuz they don’t give a damn,
If you are under fifty and you need a mammogram,
So you better be young,
With plenty of cash,
Or help shave off his Hitler mustache,
Obama’s keeping healthcare costs down,
Obama’s health advisers,
Are genocidal jerks,
Just like the Nazi doctors that were hanged at Nuremberg,
Obama’s healthcare,
It mustn’t be passed,
So light a fire on your congressman’s ass.
Obama’s keeping healthcare costs down.
Here is another great example of how our liberal politicians take advantage of our hard earned money. It is an outrage. Someone should do something about this woman!
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/michelle_bachman_welfare_queen_20091221/
Obviously a traitor. Wait a sec. Wasn’t she against federal spending?? A hypocritical traitor. Mr. Che Tryanny should at least agree.
So Rep. Michelle Bachman isn’t perfect. If we had to wait for politicians who were as pure as the driven snow there wouldn’t be a United States of America. Our country was founded on the ideal that all men are created equal. An ideal that is enshrined in our Declaration of Independence. It was written by a man who owned slaves. Our Declaration of Indendence was signed by a number of men who owned slaves. Should we have rejected the Declaration of Independence because Thomas Jefferson and many of the men who signed it believed in an ideal that they did not live up to? Or do we accept that people are flawed but support them anyway because they are fighting for what we believe in? I think King George III would have preferred we had rejected our Declaration of Independence because Jefferson and the men who signed it wern’t perfect. Pres. Obama would love it if we “threw Rep. Bachman under the bus” because she isn’t perfect.
I agree with Bryan. I will add that the piece on Michele Bachmann is glaringly one-sided and obviously intended to disparage her. I will wait to hear from Michele before coming to any conclusion. The government routinely pays farmers to not farm their land, keeping prices of farm-products artificially high to ensure farmers a living wage. I don’t know the details of Michele Bachmann’s farm subsidy, and the article is written to make a point, not to inform, so reading the article tells us only that she receives some kind of agricultural subsidy. One thing is certain — the political left hates Michele Bachmann as much as they hate Sarah Palin, both are strong, competent, and intelligent women. From the perspective of the political-left, they’re only flaw is that they are not socialists.
Therein lies the problem. We are willing to accept “imperfection” as long as it is an imperfection that bellies our beliefs. Rep Bachmann is willing to point a finger with one hand while taking with the other and we are supposed to go along because she “believes” what we believe. Unfortunately it isn’t true. She doesn’t believe in getting government out of our lives or reeling in the out of control spending. She believes in stopping the spending for the OTHER guys. We still get ours. Don’t get me wrong guys. I want this. I want to believe it can happen. I have the Gadsen Flag tattoo’d on me so one of the last things people see of me will be words “Don’t Tread On Me.” But we don’t need imperfection. We don’t need another politician who just saying what we want to hear.
You have a Representative as constitutionally conservative as Michele Bachman, and you still find ‘fault’? Wow.
There’s an ongoing discussion on sayanythingblog.com ( Rob Port, North Dakota) where someone who actually farms has explained how/why the ag program is the way it is, and why farmers participate. (you may have to scroll a bit) May I suggest looking at it?
BTW, Michele Bachmann’s husband’s father (now deceased) is the farmer who has received ag payments.
Michele may not be ‘perfect’, but she’s certainly RINO!
Barb
‘She’s certainly NO RINO!”
Had to fix that.
Barb
Dave –
With all due respect, the Tea Party movement may not be the right place for you. Members of this movement are not looking for perfection; ideological or otherwise. Rather, we — speaking for myself, my friends, and my family — are engaged in a fight to restore in practice the democratic republic that our Constitution laid out in theory. We first must stop the tyrannical ambition of this current Congress and President. Michele Bachmann is precisely the kind of person we need to achieve our goal. I do not know the details of the agricultural subsidies the article you linked us to claims she is receiving. I will withhold judgment until I know the details, but I am willing to bet my yearly salary that what she is doing is legal. I suspect that what she is doing is no different than claiming tax deductions, something I will bet even you do; I know I do. No one is asking you to like Michele Bachmann. Personally, I do like her, and I will defend her because she is fighting alongside me for freedom and liberty, and she is fighting against the socialism that is sweeping this country into ruin. Given that the policies of this current Congress and President will cripple this nation for generations to come, you will forgive me for not placing a high value on whether or not Michele Bachmann receives a few thousand legally obtained dollars through a possibly misguided government program. Our current Congress and President are sowing the seeds for a future civil war in which this nation will decide again whether it will live half free and half slave. We are a divided nation, and as history has proven, a house divided against itself cannot stand.
Merry Christmas
Wayne
In re Waynes Response to Dave
You folks see anger and discourse and see promise and success of the TEA Party Movement?
It is 11 months from the election and you folks are fully and freely debating the issues!
May I applaud you all for engaging in the type of debate that the Founding Fathers did in establishing our country.
An association of men who will not quarrel with one another is a thing which has never yet existed, from the greatest confederacy of nations down to a town meeting or a vestry. Thomas Jefferson
It is a hallmark of a vibrant and engaged citizenry that we have debates such as this.
And I am not in favor of the inference of casting someone out because they never disagree. The men in our congress have become a mutual admiration society.
Let us never succumb to this vanity. Let us keep in our midst those that share our general sentiments and political views but dissent with us from time to time. Let us keep dissent amongst us to keep s honest with ourselves.
The democrats made all sorts of vile threats to quell dissent and allow them to pass this abomination of a healthcare bill. Let us not send our legitimate dissenters away from us, but keep them near to keep us honest and to force us to fully debate the merits and demerits of each and every issue.
As for myslef, let me weigh in on the Bachman Ag Subsidy issue.
1st, I grew up on a dairy farm in Wisconsin.
Next, I have espoused dumping all the incumbents, regardless of party.
Yes, the Ag subsidies are screwed up. For example, milk receives a higher subsidy based on how far it was produced from Eau Claire Wisconsin. That is because when it was proposed in the early 20th century, refrigeration was not perfected and milk spoiled when it was produced far from the population centers of New York and Los Angeles, etc.
You folks have raised a perplexing issue. My initial response is that it was legal, so she deserves no blacklisting for it. On the other hand, if we reach a consensus on it being immoral, even though it is legal should she be black listed for being a hypocrit? If a politician speaks against abortion, but he r daughter has an abortion, should it have negative political fall out? If Sarah Palin’s daughter had had an abortion, would it have impacted negatively on Sarah Palin? Should it impact her negatively?
I am not going to give my answer now and perhaps never, because I believe the TEA Party benefits more from the debate in this case, than it does from the quick resolution…
Mean while, back to the debate on voting out all incumbents regardless of political party:
In college I belonged to a fraternity. And sometimes other fraternities on campus went rogue… Have an appropriate number of warnings, the local Alumni or the National Chapter would shut down the fraternity by pulling its charter.
They would leave the fraternity closed for 3 or 4 years. Why? To purge all the elements that created the problems. Fraternities have figured out that the older members would corrupt the new members, and the same attitudes and problems would instilled in the new members.
A full purge, prevents the older members from corrupting the new members.
I suggest to you that is the merit of voting out all of the incumbents regardless of party.
I know, I know, you dont want to split the party and elect the democrats again.
But do you really think the power elite of the Republican party are going to give up their power and all the trappings that come with it with out a fight?
It has been more than 3 months since 1 to 2 million of us marched on Washington DC on 9/12. And it has been 2 weeks since the poll came out that shows the TEA PArty folks are more popular than the Democrats or Republicans.
If they were predisposed to change their ways and allow the TEA Party Movement power within the RNC, they have had ample time to do it.
Instead their leaders have ridiculed and scorned the non Republican Candidates that TEA Party Candidates that have run for office.
The Republicans will just toy with us and trick us in being marginalilzed.
Those were my thoughts.
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot
So we are going to take another politician just because he/she talks a big game? Either you are for or against government subsidies and the taxes all of us pay to cover them. Sorry I don’t see a grey in this situation. She says she is against these types of things, but takes them. There are plenty of blogs and discussions out there explaining why people take all kinds of government handouts. Many of those are as legitimate as the farmer argument. The money went to Michele’s family. Her father in law managed the farm, didn’t own it. Again no grey here. That is the way it has to be. As for the Thomas Jefferson argument above yes, a great man, but imperfect. The example of slavery you cite is good, but also important to note the compromise on slavery was made to get the nation created. A much better reason to be imperfect than farm subsidies. Also keep in mind that compromise on slavery, that bit of imperfection cost this country nearly 620,000 lives to correct.
Dave,
I agree with you and would also like to see ag subsidies end. I think that can be accomplished eventually.
However – in this case it seems like you’d be happy to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I don’t live in Michele’s district, do you? (I live in Collin Peterson’s.)
Bottom line is, Michele is a Congressional Representative who is as strongly conservative as you are going to find, regardless of a perceived fault in an extended family member legally accepting a government agriculture subsidy.
Barb
When are we going to stop reacting to whatever it is the liberal/Progressives decide to do? When are we going to stop holding protests that do nothing? When are we going to start the fight to repeal laws and eliminate bureaucracies? When are we going to start fighting the liberal/Progressives with a conservative revolution? Previously on this page I have proposed starting a new political party, the Frugal Conservative Party (FCP). A political party with principles and most importantly penalties for not abiding by those principles. Actions speak louder than words. Where is the action to back up our words?
What would make it any different from the Constitution or Libertarian Party.
Third parties are not the solution. IDEAS are! Decentralization will transform our current Centralized Constitutional Republic into a LOCALIZED Constitutional Republic.
Art 1, Sec 4 & Art 1, Sec 5, Clause 2 & 4 allow for this.
Already have FIFTY candidates from across the political spectrum (mostly center-right) who’ve signed on.
Michael, did you read the Frugal Conservative Party’s statement of principles? A political party where the candidates it endorses are not members of the party but independent contractors. A political party that bans lawyers and professional politicians from membership in it. A political party that states who it will accept campaign contributions from, only registered voters. A political party that can expell members who do not abide by the party’s principles. Those IDEAS, those principles make the FCP different from all other political parties!
I posted a reply about simply joining an established party and bringing your ideas with you and working with the Precinct strategy to ensure you get the nod, but it doesn’t look like it posted so here’s the short version (ughh wordpress).
Well Bryan, to answer your question… when we have many “house members” hanging lifeless in trees like Christmas decorations… sorry, that’s all they will understand… Money and power are a tough thing to give up… ask the British… so I let you go with that.
My Father said Nothing good ever happens after 100AM ,I have been in trouble couple times after 100Am…HHAAHA…Then You have Gov.socialism is great for ants-We Are Not ANTS.
Dems should be ashamed of them self’s for being the the host to the parasites called “Socialist”Oaths Mean Nothing to these fools.VOTE on a bill they didnt EVEN READ!!! IMPEACHMENT NOWWWW…TAR >>>>FEATHER >>>NOW<<
transparency is here they are self serving and Your future will pay for it.
Financial Hell is here talking out of the side of there mouth one day the other the next,ear marking themselves will go unchecked costing billions.
Deficit Should have been priority 13 trillion later it will be 14T by end of 2010!
guess they could sell off more gold though…. ?
they did tell you the rest believe me,I have been doing the math for a Month!
Glenn Beck is a fraud, but we have the Judge here speaking up for liberty and not trying to mislead and deceive the American people. Rupert Murdochs’ Fix News allows the judge to speak some truth. Be sure to check out the documentary, “Outfoxed.” (Tyranny)
Although it goes against our nature, why doesn’t each and every one of us call in sick the day the health care bill is signed? (In a twisted way I enjoy the irony of it on so many levels)
I am either going to take down my American Flag or fly it upside down.. that day as well.
Well, I fly the Gadsden every day…”don’t tread on me”… so that is covered… But I would have no problem staying home whenever-if ever the “bill” is signed. We plan to have a tea party the next time our county (Crow Wing) gets together to attempt to justify the nasty tax hikes on our tax statements. That’s if we still “own” our homes by then…
Are we yet registered as a party here in Minnesota? Are we seeking candidates for a slate in the coming election?
Instead of focusing on forming a new party, focus on ideas like DECENTRALIZATION – relocating US Congress to our State Capitals
There are already two candidates in MN supporting this concept:
HARLEY SWORM – Governor Candidate
RICHARD BURTON – US House District 8
“SWARM” (misspelled his name)
All of us should be giving the “process” a thought or two… we need candidates for offices from school board to city and county gov’t to state and federal offices. Even “water quality boards”and “lake associations”. We got distracted over the last 40-odd years and let the “commies” take over, I will grant you that many had “good intentions”… but those can also lead straight to hell. We need to forget about Jon and Kate plus eight, survivor, and the latest Tiger Woods bimbo eruption. And START PAYING ATTENTION! Don’t leave it to just a few of us to pull the wagon for the rest that say “let somebody else do it”.
Wildman
Candidate for MN 8th congressional district
Who stands t0 benefit BIG from the health care bill passage? Could it be the drug companies? We are on the “eve” of its passage. If they are truly the big winners, then educate yourself. Just ran across this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben
Check it out. If you think this bill is evil, then check the links of the major drug companies today to Nazi Germany. It is no coincidence. It is a real eye opener.
While you’re at it look up Baer Pharmaceuticals link to the 1918 Spanish Flu.
1918 is the same year Baer came out with Aspirin which is known to lower Vitamin D levels.
The Spanish/Swine Flu killed so many because it prays on those with low vitamin D levels.
So someone got sick from this flu back then which was bad but not horrible, and then they were given Aspirin as a remedy which then lowered their D levels and turned their flu into a fatal one.
Also look into IBM’s roll in providing the primitive computer technology for processing prisoners of the Holocaust.
Wow.
Here’s your answer:
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In a recent poll taken by Investor’s Business Daily (IBD), it was found that two-thirds of doctors oppose the proposed health care reform plan. Not only does this poll challenge statements from the White House, but also from the American Medical Association (AMA), NPR, and the LA Times. In a recent article from the Times, it says that the AMA is the “association representing the nation’s physicians…lobbying and advertising to win public support for President Obama’s sweeping plan.” Actually, the AMA only represents 18% of doctors in the US. I would say that that is hardly enough of a percentage to call the AMA a representation of the nation’s physicians.
So, the Investors Business Daily trumps everyone else? Actually, I think the the poll published in the Thief River Falls Gazette trumps the IBD.
Face it, both sides pick and choose the polls that fit their views.
It’s actually the Thief River Falls Times. LOL
Health care is about 18% of the economy. American’s are in at least two wars that we know of. The federal government wants to expand health care and give more power and secrecy to the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve that is not really federal and has no reserve. Article I, Section 10, of the U.S. Constitution states, “No state shall make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts.” Oh yes, can anyone tell me where in the constitution health care is a right? $700 billion for TARP, at least $24 trillion for a “stimulus,” and we get cash for clunkers, and an extension for a home buyer credit and more unemployment that is really closer to 15% if not higher. This whole idea that health care is going to be free and the nanny state is going to take care of you is a lie. Its’ an illusion, just like the money system. Does anybody remember what happened to Andrew Jackson? Does anybody care? “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers’ conquered.” (Thomas Jefferson) Welcome to Obaaaamaville! The New American Reservation. Please research the history of the creation of the Federal Reserve. A great place to start is, The Creature from Jekyll Island. This is now about power and control. The $ Is the world’s reserve currency. But for how much longer? Our debt/GDP ratio is about 40%. Can anyone say, “Asset bubble?” Well how about the Amero? Or maybe Special Drawing Rights. Better yet, let’s just get an RFID implant! That way you’ll never have to carry cash, how convenient. Except maybe if you have forgotten to pay a parking ticket when you go to buy a pizza over the phone and you get a call from the parking Gestapo instead,or you cant’ even purchase a pizza because your chip said you can’t get extra meat and cheese because your cholesterol is too high. Then you find out you have been penalized because you have already used up your carbon credits for the month. The Fed and Puppet Obamba, “The long legged mack daddy.” is conning the American people into going along with a giant Ponzi scheme for one more ride, get ready people another crisis is coming, weather its’ real or created, they are betting that the American people will go along with this scheme so they can completely enslave us and our children. Troops are being deployed within the U.S. At least 40,000. If the clergy response team tells you to get on the train are you going to give up your rights? Sound monetary policy is more than a political issue, this is an ideological struggle for LIBERTY. Just look at Zimbabwe and Argentina, this is what happens when central banks can create money out of thin air. Look up, America: Freedom to Fascism. Sherry Jackson, a True Patriot is in prison right now being denied proper medical care. Tyranny or Liberty you decide! As Mr skull and bones would say, “Either your with us or your with the terrorists.” Is this the kind of country you want your children and grandchildren to live in? Does anybody realize that the insurance and the drug industry wrote the massive disease care takeover bill? The Fed or The Senate does not care if you go bankrupt from medical bills. This is why they want to force everyone in to their health care system so they can tax and control you and get you dependent on their pharmaceuticals. Have you ever heard of Codex Alimentarius? So if the American people allow the Fed to print more Monoply play money, we the taxpayers are the lender of last resort. The fed will only bring in more war, more tyranny under the IMF and The World Bank. Restore The Republic! END THE FED! (Tyranny)
Tyranny, Section 10 refers to STATES, not the Federal Government. Tyrannics like to mislead, so I guess your name fits. If healthcare is not a right (doctors think so, but how one pays for it is another matter), then where in the Constitution does it state we should provide healthcare to veterans? Please point it out. Don’t blather about how they deserve it, just tell me where in the Constitution allows it. I think they do deserve it and I know where it’s allowed. I think you don’t.
A REAL patriot
Dave, The 10th Amendment is quite clear. If a power is not, “delegated to the U.S. by the Constitution,” it doesn’t exist. I don’t care what Doctors think, they are about the third leading cause of death in the U.S. But since you bring it up, I am a veteran of war and I never even mentioned veterans. The constitution does NOT state Health care is a right, nor does it allow for central banks to print money out of thin air. Oh, but maybe its’ OK if its’ the Federal Government. I am not trying to mislead anyone, you are free to form your own opinion. You made my point exactly, please enlighten everyone and point out the clause that you are talking about, since you are REAL patriot. (Tyranny)
Yes please enlighten everyone and point out the clause.
Article 1, Section 1 allows Congress to legislate healthcare for veterans. Do you disagree?
Dear Dave, Article 1. Section 1. Simply States, “All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and a House.” Nowhere does this mention health care or veterans, but I think I see what you are saying. Please take a look at healthcaretyranny.com where I have posted a clip from Judge Napolitano and Ron Pauls’ speech on the floor, “16 points of real reform. ” Happy New Year!
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Happy New Year to all of my fellow Tea Party Patriots.
2010 is an election year. Together, let’s identify and vet truly conservative individuals — go wildman! — and support them with donations and our vote.
One obvious point: we are all individuals who have come together in a common cause to restore some semblance of restraint on a federal government that has lost all sense of any constitutional boundaries. Regardless of our common cause, there will be many points of contention among us; it could be no other way, as we are each of our own mind.
Democracy is loud and boisterous. Whatever our differences, let us join together to defeat the socialists — whether they be Democrats or RINOs. Let’s also not demand perfection from those we elect to represent us. Demanding perfection is utter folly.
I salute you all.
One question… where’s Toni?
Wake up sheeple! See “Twenty minutes with the President.” Turn off the tel(lie)vision. Make a choice, take the red pill or the blue pill. Do you really care how many women Tiger slept with? “War is peace.” Thats’ why Barrack gets a prize. Read state department memorandum 200. Fluoride is good for you, just like mercury! Lincon was shot at the theater named, “Kennedy.” Kennedy was shot in a car killed, “Lincon.’” Ghandi and MLK were there to set us free, they got a bullet. Global warming is now climate change. Barrack Hussein Saddam Obamba Bin Laden is Benjamin Button. Brangelina, the U.N. Goodwill Ambassador is a changling tombraider. The base is Al-cia-duh. Flight 77; What really happened? If there is nothing to hide, why are they hiding everything? Dick says, “Of course the order still stands.” George wants to finish a story about a pet goat. Read the 9/11 time-line. It was an, “an interesting day.” Thermite was found in the dust. Think for yourself. Saloman ,WTC -7 collapses at freefall speed. Thank-you British Brainwashing Corporation. Problem-Reaction-Solution. 9/11/ + 3/11+ 7/7= Patriot Act 1 & 2 and the never ending, “War on terror.” Wake up sheeple, war is terror! JFK signs executive order # 11110 and ends up dead. Liberty must take back main street, oak street and elm street. Wall street is exactly that, a wall, just like the Wall of China and the Berlin Wall. It’s just Another Brick In The Wall-part 2. It will crumble and fall! 1 in 90 kids with Autism today. Look around; where are all the adults with Autism? Look up Project Paperclip. Rockefeller wants a one world government and he, “is proud of it.” Are you a transhumanist? Or rather posthuman? Time to read Brave New World, we are at the dawn of eviloution. Who is watching the watchers? Big Brother? “Slavery is freedom.” Novus ordo Seclorum. “Ignorance is strength.” CO is NOT Co2. EPA declares what plants need to survive a dangerous pollutant! Swine/11 =Pandemic Level 6. Read the MIAC report. Whats’ next, a pre-crimes unit? If you don’t like the SPLC or the NWO and you like the X’th Amendment, you are a racist terrorist. Bohemian Grove is where all those rich Republicans run around naked rubbing up against the Redwood trees. Even America’s Father figure, Walter Kronkite of Columbia Brainwashing System went to see Moloch. “But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch.” Don’t be afraid of the rabbit hole. The truth will set you free; 9/11 was an inside job!! Stand Up For Liberty! (Tyranny)
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Founding father, scientist, diplomat, humorist, philanthropist, entrepreneur, rebellious teen – Benjamin Franklin is one of the most remarkable and influential Americans of any generation. Learn more about the many sides of Ben Franklin and discover his impact on your world in this electrifying new exhibit.
The Minnesota Junto met for six hours with Benjamin Franklin and his world today at the Minnesota Historical Society. Every patriot should stand next to the statue of Ben Franklin who appears before the diorama of the British Privy council in January, 1774, one month after the Boston Tea Party of December 16, 1773. The Privy Council was, and is, the real seat of the British Empire, and the British Lord of the Council regaled Franklin for one hour with calumniations about the rebellious American Colonies.
Franklin stood there silently, and took it all in as the final breaking point of the new American Nation from the British Empire. The British Parliament had “bailed out” the British East India Company for 1.5 million dollars, and stipulated that the BIC merchants would have a monopoly to import and sell tea to America. Rich American merchants such as John Hancock would be cut out of the revenue stream designed to bolster the expanding British Empire.
Many other exhibits show the “yankee ingenuity” which prevailed during the decades preceding the American Revolution. An original fire fighting apparatus from 1835 represents the actual type of “fire truck” that Franklin created in 1759 with 19 other businessmen to serve their community. This became the basis for a mutual insurance company that insured residents against fire, but also served the entire community at risk.
Interactive exhibits highlight techniques to foil counterfeiting of paper money, electricity, postal connections, and much more. An electrical spark from Franklin’s arsenal lit the effigy of the British Lord Wedgewood who castigated Franklin as citizens of Philadelphia reacted to the Privy Council warnings against Independence.
Nearby to this exhibit is the “Greatest Generation” exhibit of WWII veterans. You can board a mock up of a C-47 and fly into Normandy, whose story is told by one of the three survivors of a sortie by one plane. Three nearest the exit door survived, while enemy flak blew up the plane just after they jumped.
Millions of these veterans enrolled in college under the new GI bill promoted by FDR, to get education they could never have previously afforded. Many became engineers and electricians and built Post War America, including the Eisenhower Interstate Roadway system.
Minnesota ordnance plants represent the great Arsenal of Democracy which won WWII. A variety of goods is portrayed coming from the Minnesota company, 3M.
I have heard a lot of people saying the Democrats don’t have the 60 votes to pass Health Care in the Senate. I say they are wrong. I say the Democrats don’t need 60 Senate Votes, they only need, at most, 51.
The 60 votes are whats needed to “End Debate” aka kill any Republic Filibuster.
The 60 votes they got to begin debate, proves they can get 60 votes to end debate and kill any Republican Filibuster.
I know, I know… I have heard that 3-9 blue dog Democrats fear they can’t get elected if they vote for Healthcare.
And another, 3-4 far left Democrats say they won’t vote for it if it doesn’t contain the most socialist aspects they are demanding.
But I submit the Democrat Strategy is to have all 60 democrats to vote close debate and kill any filibuster, and then allow the Democrats with the biggest reelection votes the face saving option of not voting for the final bill… They only need 51 to pass the bill.
And then their is the slippery slope that politicians love to get on when the Citizenry opposes a new bill. Remember the seat belt law. In my state, the vast majority of the people were against it. So the legislature passed it saying there would be no fine, you could not be stopped solely because of seat belt issues and it would not count against your insurance. Soon there was a small administrative fine, then a larger fine, then it counted against your insurance and finally they could use it as the sole excuse to pull you over.
Knowing that, do you really think the Democrats won’t pass some form of socialized health care? They just want to get us on the slippery slope so they can slowly tighten the noose around our necks.
Did I mention that Obamacare is not about health care, Health care is about power?
If there is any chance of defeating healthcare, we must not let the Democrats spin the appearance of the issues such that the few democrats that do not vote for its final passage actually opposed it.
Rather, We must make the truth know. All the Democrats would have voted for passage if there votes were necessary, but the Democrat Leadership will allow those with the biggest reelection concerns to appear to vote against it. (More Smoke and mirrors, and further deception and disservice inflicted on the American Public)
WE MUST WELD THE DEMOCRATS TO THE REALITY THAT A VOTE FOR ENDING DEBATE AKA KILLING THE FILLIBUSTER IS THE VOTE THAT WILL COST THEM THE NEXT ELECTION.
By the way, I do not oppose healthcare because I am conservative, I oppose it because I am not willing to trade liberty for security. If health care passes, I pose this one question: “How can you protest and dissent a government that can ration away your health care”
Do you have any doubt that any Politician in power will look to how much in campaign contribution you paid and whether or not you belong to their political party when deciding. Am I the only one that can see the next logical permutation of the loss of our liberties? The leaders of the next lawful political dissent will have worry about a whole new level of political persecution, if Health care becomes law. No Health care for you cloaked in bureaucratic double talk! Live free or Die!
Those were my thoughts.
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot
No Holiday for Obowma! Join the Larouche Metro Tea Party meeting at McDonald’s on University Avenue, just two blocks west of State Capitol, on Friday, November 27, at 10:30 AM. Come on over for a cup of coffee. All points of view welcome. Free literature available for continuing the peaceful revolution to take back our country.
My patriotic blog is viewable at http://www.minnesota912.com/blog/?cat=4.
Also there is a new Ben Franklin exhibit opening at Minnesota Historical Society this weekend.
Don, et al, great posts.
I have many of the same concerns and compliants.
1. But to govern we need to elect people, and like it or not those people are usually associated with political parties. The parties serve a purpose, they play a vital role in governing. It is the world we live in.
2. Having many diverse groups is necessary for democracy to thrive but to succeed these diverse groups need to come together, we need the collective energy of all the groups to succeed. Else we can be easily divided.
3.Don, Toni and others have said the message needs to be common and easily understood by most people. I contend we have a message the original constitution, divinely inspired, has that message – you know, created equal, endowed by our creator . . .
4. The founders of this nation understood the true nature of humankind and by divine providence created a system of government to protect us from ourselves. But even then they realized the nature of men could errode their work. They understood the to preserve liberity would require constant vigilence, work and sacrafice.
5. We have simply lost our way, let down our guard and grew apathetic.
There will always be threats to our God given liberties. Bad politicians will always be with us we just need to stay vigilent, stay inlvolved and conitnue speak for the truth.
Thanks and God Bless
The beat on the street is that..
Obviously Its time to create a new party. Whether the constitutional party or the tea party. Right now 47% of Americans like me will stand up and change the system from with in just like they did. We have a lot of work to do but we all need to get on e one page and push out the whole crooked bunch, One dissertation to the next through use of the paid off press, and as soon as you look the other way you get slammed with a bill removing your rights and reducing the constitution to a second page to the united world order constitution. We used to be the nation to look up to for solutions. Now we are known as con men…
this is not what i am riasing my children to accept… and nither am I.
Wildman,
Are you running against Oberstar?? Email me if you are!
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EVERYONE it is time to go to http://www.thebravest.com and sign the petition addressing Obama and Holder telling them no trial in New York.
They have 100,000 signatures so far and need more.
It takes about 1 minute!
Another group as its members to evaluate how they are doing and how they could be more effective. This was my impromptu response:
Hello
Any group out there that is truly grassroots is a worthwhile venture. Keep fighting the good fight.
A few things I have noted that are not necessarily based just on observations of your group:
1) We need to persuade people to convert. Less preaching to the choir. Folks need to get out of their comfort zone and start interacting with persons who dont share our outlook on a one on one basis. Everyone one should try to bring one new person to events or telephone conferences. We each know at least one or two person who will come to an event or participate in a teleconference just by us asking.
2) At events, you need to humanize yourself. Democrats and Republicans alike demonize the opposition. Obama has called us angry right wing nut terrorists. Persons who think less critically than we do, accept that as true. Confrontation and yelling just reinforces that perception and makes it easier for them not to listen to what you have to say. You must tear down the the demonized perception you have been labeled.
I often start out by saying, we Americans are more alike than we are different. Dont play into the strategy of both major parties of dividing and conquering us on relatively trivial side issues while they steal us blind of cash, liberties and power. Go to lunch once a week at any fast food restaurant. Identify someone you would not normally associate with and feel out their political beliefs. Be Pleasant. If you sense they are open to discussion, gently challenge their beliefs after you point out all the ways you are more alike than different. Get out of your comfort zone.
3) Dont let the two major political parties define and frame the election. Both parties propose candidates and we end up choosing the lesser of two evils… you still have chosen evil. Dont let them pit us americans against each other. I have seen many folks at public events who want confrontation. The 2 major parites want us to vent our frustrations. They dont want meaningful dialogue. HAve meaningful calm dialogues with persons who are not astroturf. If you let them frame, define and set the tone of the next election, you will lose.
4) If you want change you must life the change – Gandhi
I see the Democrats and liberals composed primarily of persons who have a sense of hopelessness of achieving the American dream on their own and persons who are just lazy or scheming and want something for nothing. And then a much smaller number of actual persons with power and persons who have a vested interest in and who profit from their ties to the democrat party or an elected democrat.
The only segment I see as being able and possibly willing to change their loyalties are those with a sense of hopelessness. I dont know why we conservatives tend to be far less prone to developing a sense of hopelessness, but we need to figure out how to put opitmism and the fire back in the belly of these folks. I imagine they are surrounded by groups of like minded nay sayers who tell them they have no chance of acheiving their dreams so why even try. Will words of encourage from conservatives motivate them. Do we have to start living the change and invest time and money in giving them hope so they stop voting on the basis of personal hopelessness? We often talk of a hand up and not a hand out but how often do most of us actually practice what we preach. Do we have to have a National Conservative “Week of Hope” where we actually go into the hood and give motivational speeches in schools, seminars on the constitution and the vision of the founding fathers, family oriented pestreet picnics where more affluenjt persons actually have dialogue with disadvantaged persons and share our dreams, visions and philosophies. Some how we must get to the people who feel hopeless and reignite the passion for life. Think they should suck it up, on their own.. maybe your right…. but look what that got you in the last election…Hopeless people voted for Obama because they felt their best chance at the American dreams was to rely on the democrats rather than themselves.
4) Can the petty bickering power and personalities. If our country ceases to exist what value is their to being the leader of a poltical organization that has ceased to exist. And if this is a true grassroots movement, ideas and power should flow from the bottom up not the top down.
5) Avoid issues that divide and polarize. That is what the persons currently in power want. They divide and conquer us on gay marriage and abortion, etc while they steal us blind, take our liberties, ignore the constitution and destroy our country. What difference does it make if you win your position on for instance abortion or gay marriage if the country ceases to exist and/or no longer has the power to enforece them. :Let us save our country first and then resume the debate once we get our country away from the brink of collapse and/or tyranny and/or chaos.
6) KISS Keep the message simple. We dont have the money for advertising and repetition so our message must be simple to stick in the minds of voters.
7) No Damn Incumbents regqardless of political party. Yeah, I know some of you want to make some exceptions. But remember kiss, No incumbents regardless of poltical party is much simpler than No Incumbents except x y and z. And no incumbents is non-partisan. As soon as you start saying you want to keep some of your favorite incumbents to stay other will say they want some of theirs to stay. And if we want the Persons in the Democrat party who put Country over party loyalty to do likewise, we must lead by example… NO INCUMBENTS REGARDLESS OF PARTY if implemented solves 3/4’s the problem in my mind. Incumbents have become arrogant, unaccountable and out of touch with us citizens.
9) Need to attack local spending and property taxes.
10) Need Judicial Reform and Accountability. Judges are ignoring the constitution and bill of rights. And justice has become for sale to the highest bidder.
11) Need to form a tighter network with other grassroots groups that share similar political outlook..Now is the time for all good people to come to the aid of their country and put aside their petty bickering and jockying for ego.
Those were my off the cuff thoughts.
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot.
TEA Party and Lawful Independent Political Dissent
Yep, and that is why we need MANY organizations! This was meant to be a movement of many affiliate and organized groups. Whether or not they were tax exempt, incorporated or just associations.
If we have one group per geographical area, will will be easily destroyed. A group of two or three can do a lot! Groups always grow! There is room for many organizations. Anyone who tries to become a territory is NO BETTER than the DO NOTHING RNC or GOP! They do not know how to get intouch with the people they need the most!
Don is right! Diversity and hope!
We are not going to win over the hopeless with Limited Govt, Fiscal Resp and Free Markets! That is why they don’t see the value in our principals! Why? Cause they don’t see themselves! It is like a black child looking for a black princess in the doll isle at Walmart or Target. My grand-daughter said to me “grandma, there are no black princesses”! It broke my heart! YES, they need to see their image in our party our you can forget it! (not just cause my sweet grandaughter… because I have been working with diverse groups and the white conservatives BARELY, if at all, reach out!
Well – this blog gets longer and longer by the minute, and for very good reason. Law abiding, honest, decent people need to get involved and wake up because the THEFT of our rights, possessions, and dignity is moving into hyper-mode with all the “stimulus” (corruption) money that was printed last fall. It is lurking literally in your back yard if you are paying attention. I received an outrageous letter this week that confirms without a shadow of doubt that THEFT is ultimately behind much of what is going on. The people that are in power (and in bed with them) want to usurp all the power and money for themselves and leave you and I destitute. It is no mystery why many small businesses have shut down in America. The only truly mysterious part is why so many people have not paid attention and don’t seem to care. Well – that really isn’t a mystery either if you know what is going on. It is time to choose sides. I know which side people in this movement are on – we are on the winning side. The thieves are going to find out in 2010 what is waiting for them – time for them to go on an infinite vacation.
Glenn Beck mentions BRING HOME THE POLITICIANS – 11.11.09
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Don’t Take The Swine Flu Jab! So what if government officials and vaccine promoters have financial ties to the vaccine industry. Conflict of interest is OK when it comes to your health right? There’s more mercury in a tuna fish sandwich! Pregnant women shouldn’t eat too much fish, but it’s OK to inject it? Some of these vaccines only contain trace amounts of aborted fetal tissue, animal DNA and formaldehyde and other contaminants. Get off your knees, grow a backbone and just say no. Look up S.666-Biological, Chemical and Radiological Weapons and Countermeasures Act. “We are from the government, we are here to help you and keep you safe.” Have fun at Camp FEMA. Infinite Love is The Only Truth. Nano-technology is here. Influenza vaccine, H5N1/GSK, US 666 Bio-defense Stockpile. Everything is OK, we have Ecoscience! Everything is OK, we are Geo-engineering the environment. Where there is hatred let me sew love! The side-effect of death and paralysis is very rare, so the benefits must out-weigh the risks right? Sid the science kid said, “It’ll help a whole lot.” Check out executive order 13295. 322, “It’s so secret, we can’t talk about it.” Stand Up For Liberty, more than 100 to 1, Baby!
Don!
When are you going to become a TP organizer?
Stop messing around and build your team! You have enough people now get them to work!
So what if your health is not optimal all the time, neither is mine! Let’s go out with a feeling of we did it, it killed us, but we did it!
The idea was not to have territories and not to limit how many organize.
Protests like the Tea Party rallies are the beginning of the conservative revolution. Joining as many of the various conservative groups that been created as you can is the next step. Then work with those groups to bring back the limited Constitutional government our country once had.
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How about this Theory?: When money &/or power &/or the forces that manipulate our government wants a bill passed that public wont like, they wait for the political party most aligned with that issue to be in power. When voters vote them out, they have the new party in power pass parts of their agenda associated with the new party. Until that political party is voted out. WE THE PEOPLE blow off steam and “think” we have had a non-violent revolution each time we vote the party in power out; after we get fed up with them breaking their campaign promises and voting against our best interests. And the cycle repeats
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot
yep – very, very likely. These is so much corruption going on that just about anything is possible.
In times of change, the Patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot – Mark Twain
Wells Fargo Bank and Minnesota Judicial Corruption
If it seems sometimes that i do not have the energy of the rest of you, it is because I have carried the fight seemingly alone for almost 20 years. Sensing that i have successfully passed the torch on to others, Please forgive me if I occassionally stop to recuperate. The stress and retaliated of the last 20 years have taken there toll on me, financially and emotionally and have destroyed my health.
While my health permits, I am going to continue to fight for Judicial Reform and Accountability
Keep fighting the good fight.
Those were my thoughts.
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot
New Ben Franklin Exhibit opens at Minnesota History Center on November 27, 2009.
http://www.benfranklinexhibit.org/exhibit
In 1774, in the wake of the Boston Tea Party and in the midst of colonial cries for “no taxation without representation,” Franklin was summoned by solicitor-general Lord Wedderburn to appear before the British Privy Council. There he was accused of treason against the Crown and publicly humiliated—yet Franklin remained silent throughout the ordeal. This was a moment of epiphany, as Franklin came to realize that compromise—for once—was unlikely to carry the day. He left London for the colonies where he added his voice to the growing insurgency. On July 4, 1776, the American colonists declared their independence from Britain.
On January 29, 1774, Lord Alexander Wedderburn verbally attacked Benjamin Franklin, accusing him of deliberately leaking letters in order to provoke colonial riots against the Crown. This humiliating, hour-long confrontation took place before the members of the British Privy Council at the Cockpit (a room named for its previous use—cockfighting). While the councilors jeered, Franklin refused to respond, and his silence was more powerful than words.
The letters in question were written by Thomas Hutchinson, the governor of Massachusetts, advising England on ways to deal with growing colonial unrest. They were passed on, indirectly, to Franklin; he shared them with colleagues in Boston and—despite his request otherwise—they were published. As a result, radical colonial patriots were outraged and their increasing hostility culminated in the Boston Tea Party.
This was my post printed by the liberal Minn Post after its Election Day Debacle Article.
“As I forecast on this website numerous times, the American people rose up and crushed the Obamination on Tuesday. The August movement in America is similar to the rebellion in Germany in 1989 which toppled the communist government there, and took down the Berlin Wall.
Jon Corzine represents all the evil policies of the Obamination: Goldman Sachs, which runs the government (Larry Summers) and Wall Street (Tim Geithner) , ripped off billions in derivative casino bets, and took down the world’s most productive economy. Then this parasite: Corzine, spends his ill gotten millions in blood money to buy a Governor ship.
Then Obama goes to New Jersey, and says “I need more Corzine to loot America”. And the liberal lap dogs Klobuchar, Franken, Ellison, and McCollum will follow him like lemmings off a cliff to oblivion in 2010.
The three most insane policies in the history of the United States: 1) Obama’s Tarp, which he voted for in 2008, 2) Cap and Tax – an insane tax on energy during a global cooling period, and 3) obamacare, which will cut Medicare by $500 billion when millions more people need it during the economic depression. ”
Watch Larouche webcast on http://www.larouchepac.com on November 11 at 12 Noon CST to get more information on the debacle of the Obamination, and real solutions to the ongoing economic depression.
James Oberstar is absolutley lying! The Climate Change Treaty is all about control and nothing else and he knows it. So was the Midwestern Regional Greenhouse Gas Reduction Accord that the phony Pawlenty supported. These laws will do nothing but hurt businesses. It’s just more control of business and people’s lives. We have to do everything we can to stop Copenhagen or else we will lose our sovereignty and freedom! James Oberstar knows this as well. He is a traitor to this country!!!
We are getting together in Brainerd today to ’storm’ his office here. Not that we need another ‘crusace’ but, how bout’ we start a flyer, petition, or legal action to hold him in violation of the constitution? Traitors can only be charged during time of war… hey wait… we got a few of those to spare… sure that’s it. Have you ever checked out his voting record… here is a real winner, he has voted 100% for acorn and only sixty-some% in favor Vietnam vet issues. How bout’ his campaign contributions, only 3% of his funds come from within the 8th district. If he had to ‘face us’ in Fleet Farm, or Super one Foods he would vote differently. But when the people go to D.C. and never return, they are isolated from the people they are supposed to be representing. Spandex Man needs a spanking at the ballot box, I have decided to try it.
RALLY AGAINST AMNESTY & ILLEGAL #IMMIGRATION Sat Nov 14 #MN State Capital 75 Rev Dr Martin L King JR Blvd St Paul Minnesota 11a-1p #teaparty
check out this website free phones for the poor along with 70 min a month next is free internet and computors etc. This has got to stop we are going broke he is giving out phones to his voter base.
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Am wondering if someone can help with a post on here from earlier – the one about the criminal. Does anyone know of an attorney that may be interested in investigating this further? It involves a public agency, a criminal, the Census Bureau, and very possibly ACORN. I believe the agency is criminally negligent in their actions at the least and possibly other charges at the most. Since this involves the government corruption that we are all fighting I thought it was worth a try here. I had to hire an attorney to fight a local government here in the metro last year and it is very difficult to find anyone to go toe to toe with government. I can be reached at chadl(at)earthlink.net.
We already have one bus headed to DC to answer Michelle Bachman’s call for this Thursday to “pay a house call to Nancy Pelosi” and all of Capital Hill and let em know what we think about the proposed health care legislation. We’re taking names for the second bus leaving Wednesday at 930am. Contact marasou@aol.com for more info. Let’s Go!!!
And if you can’t make it to DC, you should still plan to show up at one of your Congressperson’s office on Thursday at noon. You can get info about where their local offices are from this web page:
http://americansforprosperity.org/cong.php
There’s more info about it at this web page, http://americansforprosperity.org/102209-make-house-call-november-5th, including a link where you can RSVP to let them know you’ll be participating, one way or another.
But please TAKE ACTION! No more sitting back and letting someone else speak for you!
Please this petition. It is the first step to reduce the size of our Federal government.
http://www.gopetition.com/online/31828.html
Here is Mr. Overspend(Oberstar) response to my issues with the Climate Bill the U.S. has and the U.N. treaty in which both give money to the disadvantaged from the U.S. coffers both in country and world wide. He is truely and Idiot to believe anyone with half a brain would listen to his canned rhetoric coming straighth from the big messiah on the hill!Mr. Jeff Nardello
11213 260th St.
Sebeka, Minnesota 56477-2229
Dear Mr. Nardello:
Knowing of your opposition to the American Clean Energy and Security Act (H.R. 2454), and to international actions that would reduce greenhouse gas emissions, I would like to take this opportunity to provide you with an update.
First, it should be noted that the Midwest is already leading the way on addressing climate change. In November 2007, Midwestern governors signed the Midwestern Regional Greenhouse Gas Reduction Accord. Among other provisions, this accord calls for the development of a regional cap-and-trade program. Minnesota has been a leader by passing into law the Next Generation Energy Act, which will require the state to meet a 25 percent renewable energy standard by 2025.
While Minnesota has already taken action, addressing climate change is more than a Minnesota responsibility. On June 26, the House of Representatives passed the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 by a vote of 219 to 212. This legislation makes important progress toward creating millions of new, clean energy jobs; enhances our energy security by reducing our dependence on imported oil from countries ruled by dictators and unfriendly regimes; and protects the environment for many generations to come.
Additionally, this legislation would help America become the world leader in manufacturing clean energy technologies. For example, a single wind turbine contains up to 400 tons of steel and 8,000 parts. There is no reason American steel produced from Minnesota taconite cannot play a role in this new economy. Minnesota engineers, scientists, and workers can play a crucial role in this new economy.
Addressing climate change is also about keeping Americans safe. The CNA Corporation, a non-profit organization dedicated to researching and analyzing scientific, operational, and policy challenges, brought together eleven retired three-star and four-star admirals and generals to provide their perspective on the impact of climate change. They found that projected climate change poses a “serious threat to America’s national security.” Their findings stated: “Climate change acts as a threat multiplier for instability in some of the most volatile regions of the world, exacerbating conditions that lead to failed states—the breeding grounds for extremism and terrorism.”
We can create clean energy jobs and take steps to reduce the human impact on climate change without bankrupting families and small businesses in Minnesota. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office calculated that this legislation would cost the average U.S. household about $175 a year — a postage stamp a day.
The U.S. Senate is now drafting its version of climate change legislation.
The United Nations climate change conference, which will take place in Copenhagen in December of this year, will focus on a new global climate treaty to replace the Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012. It should be noted that the United States never ratified the Kyoto Treaty. An effective response to climate change requires an international response from the major greenhouse gas emitters. I am hopeful that President Obama will be able to build consensus around a solution that promotes job creation in the U.S. and protects our environment for future generations. Should President Obama make a decision to sign a treaty, it would require two-thirds of the U.S. Senate to give consent.
While we may respectfully disagree on how to best protect our environment, I hope to earn your support on the principle of an energy policy that moves our country toward energy independence and clean electricity generation.
With best wishes.
Sincerely,
James L. Oberstar, M.C.
ll we need to do is DRILL BABY DRILL and bankrupt the mid.east and Russia. Use our fuel until there is a VIABLE renewable energy- Ethanol takes more energy to make than it produces same with solar and windmills. Oh yea Mr. Overspend what happens when there is no wind for that 400 tons of steel that needs coal, carbon, elecric etc. to manufacture??? Do we just turn off the lights? Oberstar has got to be voted out we all need to donate a little time and money to the best candidate to takehis spot right now that looks like it could even be ……… Carl Marx?
If you want to shut up all the climate change crowd, look into Helium-3 which is a CARBON FREE energy source your tax dollars have been paying for going on a decade now. It will replace coal and nuclear power within a few decades and…no one who in the GREEN movement seems to be talking about it which is the most suspicious part of it all.
Here’s a quick 5 minute explanation of the new technology on the way:
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Chess Lessons and Reagan Strategies
In my high school and college days, I enjoyed playing chess. And, from those games I learned a strategy of predicting my opponents moves and planning my strategy a few moves ahead. One of my shortcomings is to attribute the ability to think a few moves ahead to people I associate with and presume that they understand that I am thinking a few moves ahead. May I suggest each of you learn the game of chess to improve our chances of prevailing in this great drama. Having said that let me move to my next point.
It is my impression that some of us TEA Party Patriots believe that all the is required to save our country is elect a Republican Majority. Others of us believe that the Same old status quo politics of the last 30 to 40 years cannot continue. Some TEA Party Patriot supporters acknowledge minor problems with the Republican Party, but think they will go away. Myself and others believe the Republicans and Democrats are equally responsible for the mess we find our country in. In my opinion, the politicans of both political parties have become corrupt, unaccountable and have thwarted transparency in Government. In short, Our Representative Republic as become Government by the highest bidder.
I believe that the lack of accountability, lack of transparency and corruption are entrenched in the infrastructure and leadership of both of the 2 major political parties.
I believe that Persons in Power in both of the major political parties will not willing nor easily part from the Quid Pro Quo that yields them power in excess of what the constitution permits.
And so as a chess player, I think more than one move ahead.
If we just replace the Democrat majority with a Republican majority, we still have the same old status quo corrupt, opaque and unaccountable Politics which got us here in the first place.
How then do we take back our party and force the leadership to abandon its corrupt, opaque and unaccountable ways?
And my solution is to seriously suggest the formation of a third party…
It is at this point that some of us TEA Party folks more loyal to Party than to Country, jump down my throat. Some ask if I will split the vote and the Democrats will remain in power. Some look at me as a traitor. My various writings speak to my conservative nature. My contributions, both economic and volunteer, speak to my past loyalty to the Republican cause. But my freinds, the Republicans haven’t been acting very Republican lately. And for that matter, they have been more loyal to retention of their power and personal gain than to the general welfare of our country.
Having established my conservative leaning loyalties, I apparently still have to spell out the strategy a few moves out. And so, here it is.
In his January 26, 2009 – 1st State of the Union Address, Ronald Reagan introduced us to his strategy of dealing with the Russians, “In those talks it is essential that we negotiate from a position of strength. There must be real incentive for the Soviets to take these talks seriously.”
Ergo, You see my strategy in pressing the third party alternative is press the entrenched corruption of the Republican Party to parley for terms. And to do so from a position of strength.
My fellow TEA Party Patriots that place loyalty to party over loyalty to country, or resign themselves to the Republican Party with a whimper believing they have no other alternative, or are not up to the fight and work involved in creating a third party, destroy our position of strength from which to demand reform from the Republican Party.
So, now you understand part of my strategy a few moves out.
And the other part has to do with encouraging some rebel left liberals in our TEA Party movement that feel the same way about the Democrat party that I do about the Republican Party. They feel that there party is also corrupt, unaccountable and opaque. They choose to place loyalty to Country over loyalty to party. Is it too much for me to ask the same of you?
I would appreciate it if you TEA Party folks that are Republican Party loyalist would tell me your strategy a few moves out. How do you plan to cause reform within the Republican Party, if not from a position of strenght?
I would prefer to remain with the Republican Party, but I will not be Astroturf. We must hold our own leaders to an even higher standard than our opponents. How can we expect the liberals to reform their Party, if we won’t hold our own party to the same or higher standard?
Saving our Country requires more than just a simply changing the Political Party in charge.
I am open to listening to other strategies that will result in real reform and save our country. The next move is yours. I leave you with this quote:
“We must become the change we want to see in the world.” – Mohatma Gandhi
Those were my thoughts.
Respectfully submitted,
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot
OATH KEEPERS VERY OWN SHERIFF RICHARD MACK is coming to Bloomington Minnesota NOV 14 2009 to get your tickets please go to http://www.libertyradio1710.com
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Where can we find the names of the candidates for all of the state of Minn? What elections are coming up and where?
Went out to the League of Women’s voters and found that they had been taken over by the left and the green movement. They used to be competent and unbiased but not any more.
We need one place that we can go to see who is a candidate for what position where, without bias or prejudice?
Sounds like AARP… and AAA… and how many other org’s taken over by groups with not-so-honest intentions…
Isn’t it interesting that the Obama girls all of the sudden reportedly received their vaccinations a week ago? And why would they have tried to mandate these shots if there wasn’t enough to go around? New York health care workers win a victory, now all of the sudden there is a “national emergency,” to make it easier to put up some tents, and clear the way for funding? I don’t think so! The Health Ranger is right.Did anyone see Frieden’s smirk on his face as he was talking about the old chicken egg technology? They have even more potent and “effective,” vaccinations planned for us. We are being conditioned to accept this bought and paid for pseudoscience. Please check out Gary Null’s swine flu white paper. Vaccinations should never be called immunizations because they do not guarantee immunity. Politically, I agree With Mr. Paul, that vaccinations should NEVER be mandated, however medically, Dr. Paul may be incorrect no matter how popular the polio vaccine was. In Europe, polio was in decline before the vaccine was even introduced and in the U.S. all cases of polio was caused by the vaccine itself. Yes, the American people are waking up, the whole world is waking up, thanks to people like Jane. That’s what the so called elite are afraid of. Read MEDISIN, by Dr. Whitaker.Most of the entire medical establishment has been completely brainwashed into believing the “germ theory,” that you can create “herd immunity” by assaulting the immune system with toxic soup. Most immunologists would agree that we have only begun to understand the immune system. Just having an antibody response is not the entire picture. These Sorcerers would like you to think otherwise. Governments create fear to control you. F.E.A.R. False Evidence Appearing Real. Stand up for Liberty, “Say No To The Vaccines!” END THE FED! H.R. 1207, S. 604. Peace, Love and Liberty will prevail! (Tyranny)
“This year, during the worst recession since the Great Depression, the average member of Congress will realize a 2.8 percent raise.
That means their profit margin is larger than the insurance companies they are demonizing.”
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“Quick quiz: What do these enterprises have in common? Farm and
construction machinery, Tupperware, the railroads, Hershey sweets, Yum
food brands and Yahoo? Answer: They’re all more profitable than the
health insurance industry.” – AP
…
“HealthSpring, the best performer in the health insurance industry,
posted 5.4 percent. That’s a less profitable margin than was achieved
by the makers of Tupperware, Clorox bleach and Molson and Coors beers.” – AP
…
Note the graph below:
“…Health insurers posted a 2.2 percent profit margin last year, placing them 35th on the Fortune 500 list of top industries. As is typical, other health sectors did much better – drugs and medical products and services were both in the top 10.” – AP
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Until we kick them out… or fire them, nothing will change. House and senate people need to have real jobs where they are surrounded by Joe-six-pack and the rest of us. These pirates in D.C. went there from ‘home’ districts and never went back… they lost whatever touch they had with reality. If elected from Minnesota’s 8th cong. district, one of my top five points will be to cut congressional pay in half, reduce retirement contributions, get house member health care in line with what us working stiffs have, and only have them meet in D.C. once a month for two days to vote… all the rest… or most of it, can be done online at home…. at night… or on ‘free time’!!! Get them out of there and put them into Home Depot, the Walmart greeter, plumbing, wiring, driving a dozer for a road crew… you get the drift. They have become ‘anointed’ and that’s not what the founders had in mind, it;s time they represent US…NOT THEM!!
I don’t know if you’re speaking of our movement directly, but this is EXACTLY what we’re doing at http://bringhomethepoliticians.com
We already have EIGHT 2010 BRING HOME COALITION CANDIDATES who’ve included this idea in their platform.
Hey – I’d like to remind people that this group is about principles, not parties. More and more, I am getting the distinct feeling that this Tea Party movement nationwide has been infiltrated by a bunch of partisans and possibly operatives that are looking to advance their agenda at our expense! The ONLY agenda I am interested in is one about principles. From the Our Story page, we find:
“unify around the common themes of Fiscal Responsibility, Limited Government and Free Markets.”
Be mindful, and watchful of what is going on. There are good people in both parties and within NONE of the parties that agree and align their actions with the principles. PRINCIPLES, PRINCIPLES, PRINCIPLES.
I believe the “stimulus” money that was “printed” was not only to “bail out” bad companies, but was also meant to advance the government’s agenda of expanding corruption at a break-neck pace on all fronts. You are starting to see it show up if you are paying attention.
I was rudely reminded of the blatant corruption this week when I discovered a 12 time criminal with 8 aliases is now working on behalf of the US Census. Don’t let them tell you that the Census has cut ties with ACORN – it is a sham. Maybe they cutoff the relationship in name-only but it is continuing. Those 12 crimes? They aren’t just any old crimes. And by the way some of them are within the last 12 months.
Red Alert to all Health care workers! Can anyone tell me where to find any long term double blind placebo controlled studies proving that flu vaccines are safe and effective? Using real science with a real placebo, Besides the “cohort” studies which have been debunked.
Check this article out:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/americas-soul-is-lost-and-collapse-is-inevitable-2009-10-20?pagenumber=1
I read on Michele Bachman’s letter that banks are/were funneling money to ACORN to satisfy their Community Reinvestment Act obligations. Does anyone think that the banks ONLY wanted to satisy their obligations or did they expect to buy political cover from their activities? This money flow obvious links the banks to ACORN. Now we have learned that ACORN is tied to the White House. Hmm..
Here is an interesting idea for the 2012 GOP Presidential ticket;
Governor Sarah Palin
Representative Michele Bachmann
I’d certainly go for that. Sarah and Michelle are two of the brightest people in this country. They could make this country a great place to live once again!!!
Anybody watch Glenn today?? This is some very VERY serious stuff! Does anyone think that the “free trade” with China and the movement of all our manufacturing there was a complete coincidence? Were policies setup on purpose to drive American business there? For the radicals to align themselves with Communist China? Why is it that China owns most of our debt? Yet another coincidence? Glenn and his staff are genius. Things are becoming clearer by the day and it isn’t pretty.
I read yesterday on the internet from one of the newspapers, maybe newsmax or Drudge, that Obama has opened up our nuclear sites to China visitors to see. Is this for real?? Is anybody else getting pretty nervous about this stuff?
It is clear there are 2 power centers in the fight for our freedom – and neither center cares about you and I. The 2 centers are Big Business monopolies and Big Government/labor unions. We that are fighting for ideals are continually being sucked into loyalty to one or the other. Both sides hold the majority of the financial, power, and control levers. Those of us that want neither – that want freedom and liberty, are having a VERY difficult time because both sides hold the power of financial control over our heads. Those that cling to ideals and beliefs must increasingly make a choice between being loyal to 1 of the 2 power centers or being destitute. Free enterprise and free markets is nearly a myth in this country. Most choose not to be destitute so they cling to 1 side or the other and abandon their ideals because neither power center can exist when the TRUE ideals of America get in the way – ie: The Constiution, the Bill of Rights and the ultimate ideal: FREEDOM.
We that choose ideals over power are in the fight of our life – maybe in the history of the world – as both power centers have accumulated unprecedented wealth, power and control while the majority of Americans sold out to 1 or the other power centers and partied like it was 1999. They both continue to exploit those that are not paying attention through money laundering operations, deceit, deception, corruption of all sorts and outright bullying. I believe when you say STAND UP – I think it means to stand up to the tyranny of BOTH POWER CENTERS! They are insidious and everywhere. They lurk in every alley, every hall, every building – you get the idea: everywhere.
So, I think every citizen has a choice to make: stand with the enemies or stand on ideals. Riding the fence is not going to work. Both sides are dug in – and I mean FORTIFIED. What they are hoping YOU don’t figure out is that they need US (ie: little people) for their schemes to continue. Choose neither. Make conscious choices to avoid both, as much as possible. We must make a difference or this fight will enter a new and very dangerous phase that we are witnessing right before our eyes – the “transformation” of our country. It is NOT easy – but it must be done. For the Republic. For our Freedom. For our children – lest someday we can apologize to our children that we let the most precious of all slip through our hands – our God given Freedoms. Now is the time! Make CONSCIOUS choices every day! Bow to neither.
This is conspiracy theory crap! That the two big power centers have complete control of us. That we can’t do anything but get “sucked in” by either big business or big government. BS! Our government does have power over us because we realize that as Thomas Paine said “government at best is a necessary evil.” But we have choices when it comes to big businesses. If big businesses were so powerful why did the second largest, and at one time the largest, car company in the world, GM, recently declare bankruptcy? Because we chose not to buy enough of GM’s products to keep it profitable!
What needs to be done is to reduce the size of our government. The faster we do that and the sooner we do it the better off we will be. We have the tools to reduce the size of our government we just don’t use them. The best tool for reducing the size of our government is to repeal the 1943 Current Payment Tax Act. You’ve never heard of it? If you want to learn more about the 1943 Current Payment Tax Act and how it will start to reduce the size of our government, contact me.
Thanks for the comment. I totally agree with you on limited government and choices, but lets get real. There are limited choices. The key word is limited. Thanks to this group and people speaking out and if enough people get active and make the right choices, we can limit the size of government. The truth is, Big Business (I am talking mostly about the publicly traded ones on Wall Street) always want to grow. Nothing wrong with that, to a point, since their first loyalty is to the shareholder. But, if there is enough competition in the marketplace via truly free markets, the upstarts cut into their profits. This is why government creates so many restrictions, regulations, and licensing on business in general because the big businesses know that small business doesn’t have the means to comply (if there are enough restrictions). It is a way to drive out competition. Of course, we are all sold on the fact that government is “watching out” for us, it is consumer protection, and for the common good. Or is it??? If we continue down the path we are on, there will be less small businesses in this country and we all know that small businesses create the vast majority of jobs. If no one thinks the laws and regulations created by bureaucrats is only created by them with no input, then why are there so many business lobbysists on the hill? It is pay to play or influence. With that influence, you get favors, and those favors translate into favorable tax treatment, government contracts, or more regulations to drive out competition. If anyone doubts this is the case, then read the McCarran-Ferguson Act of 1945 which was brought up on Wednesday. The Act (created by government) gave insurance companies an anti-trust exemption. What this means exactly I am not sure but I am sure it partially explains why health care costs have skyrocketed. I don’t want people to think that big business is all bad, but people need to be aware of all the moving parts. The mess we have in this country wasn’t caused by out of control government alone.
When are we going to start asking this simple question of all of our members of Congress, “Where in our Constitution is there the authorization for this bill?” Whether it is the health care bills or cap and trade, which is now being called the “pollution reduction bill” we need to have our members of Congress explain and show us where in our Constitution is the authorization for these bills? When you ask them this question it will help to have a copy of our Constitution in your hand. But do not let them slide with the explanation that it is found in Article 1 Section 8 clauses 1 or 3 (the general welfare or regulation of commerce clauses). If either of those clauses did there would not be a need for our Constitution to limit the size of our government!
This is the crap I have been yelling about for years… but the ‘average american’ is to busy watching survivor or taking kids here or there… or working that little second job to make up the income lost in the downsizing of the daytime job… lets face it, we are very distracted and sometimes I think the education monopoly is in on it.
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Is anyone going to attend the Can You Hear Us Now event? I would like to make sure people ar going before I ride all the was to the cities from Sebeka(Park Rapids area).
I havent seen or heard anything since first post now I cant find it was on?
http://www.operationcanyouhearusnow.com
There should be a good turn out for the KARE 17th rally.
Here is the local FB sight.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=164171053082&ref=mf#
or e-mail dave and get in the loop.
dstanoch@hotmail.com
Hi the one at Kare11 is a definate go, I’ve been hearing alot about it on As a Mom.
Another protest is being planned for DOWNTOWN in front of ‘CCO and the STRIB. For more info on that one, contact: skihne@gmail.com
Wanted to share my thoughts about Congress:
Dear Congress:
Very interesting what is on the front page of the Senate.gov site today, 10/13/09. There at the top of the page is “We The People” and there is a discussion of a particular part of the Constitution there, too.
The real question is who are The People? Is it only those that agree with the partisan policies that are being put forward by special interest groups? Is it only those in Congress? Is it only those that contribute financially to the 2 all-powerful parties that distort and corrupt everything in sight? It surely can’t be any of us “little people” that speak out and question what is going on.
It also is ironic that the Senate even give lip service to the Constiution when so much of it has been blatantly and repeatedly violated over and over and over again by politicians over the decades and now is being relegated to the trash heap of history.
We’re kind of tired of being run over rough-shod, not listened to, not acknowledged, and completely dismissed. We have news for Congress – unless there is blatant corruption in the voting process next year, there could very likely be a clean sweep of Congress. It is long, long LONG overdue.
WE the people want liberty and freedom, not handouts and tyranny. Ramming through a health care bill come hell or high water is not a way to win re-election. We need less government, less BIG BUSINESS (ie: MONOPOLIES – which are greasing the skids through their lobbyists) and lower prices – namely lower health care prices through less litigation and greatly increased competition!!
As a side note, I was a Republican until I learned what was really going on. I attended a party hearing and was treated like a child and those in attendance were ushered around like cattle and talked down to. This happened on more than 1 occassion. It will never happen again. When my intelligence is insulted and I am treated like a kindergartener, I don’t take kindly to it. The American People are not a bunch of cattle to be hearded around by the All-Powerful parties to do their bidding.
Say hello to a Clean-Sweep in ‘10.
Great comments, Please watch, Fall of The Republic after Oct, 21.
Question: How did Mr. Baucus become the “mouthpiece” of the health care bill? Why him? Why not someone else that had more name recognition with the public?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:44:02 -0500
Subject: Re: operationcanyouhearusnow.com Contact Form Results
From: ocyhun@gmail.com
Unfortunately, rumor has it that TPP were miffed they didn’t come up with the idea (or were’nt consulted) and other segments within the TPP movement are afraid this will just make the press mad (and they won’t be able to get good press). (Hence, no mention of this event on their site)
They (some in leadership) have the notion they can reach out to the MSM types and befriend them and get on good “press” terms with them.
That’s the “John McCain” strategy. Where did it get him?
They (segments of this movement) are looking for affirmation from those they should be seeking accountability from.
I say it’s impossible to expect the MSM to be fair and unbiased at this point in time, but we’re trying to show them just how many people are on to their lack of subjectivity.
Those that control the news are diametrically opposed politically, ideogically, socially, culturally, and philosophically to the conservative, USA loving, constitutional-thinking citizen.
Unfortunately, there are some on the “right” side of things obsessed with control, fame, recognition, etc.
My opinion is that recipe won’t work.
Grassroots needs to stay grassroots and who cares who gets the credit or headline?
Real leaders don’t look for the credit – they focus on results and the good of the country.
Forward that to your supporters and attenders and let them decide for themselves!
The Tea Party is controlled at the highest levels by Dick Armey, a Republican operative. They were amazed at the turn out in Washington, DC, and the local Express stops, because hundreds of thousands of Americans were, and are, looking for any organized opposition to the Obamination. That is why Fox news is breaking all rating charts.
Personally, I think that the Main Sewer Media is a good target for protests. I would not restrict the signage to “nice” slogans. What is nice and fair about General Electric owning NBC, and MSNBC, and their CEO chairing the Council of Economic Advisors in the White House which 1) promoted ALL the trillion dollar bailouts, 2) promoted Cap and Trade, which is nothing but Green Fascism, and 3) promoted Obamacare, which Main Sewer media outlet Newsweek revealed is nothing but a “Case for Killing Granny” in a recent cover story.
Hitler had a health plan in 1939 – 1941 which killed 70,000 elderly, deformed children, and disabled adults. This was a prelude to the Holocaust. Glenn Beck has correctly shown German posters on TV from that period which advocated that disabled people be killed to save 60,000 Reichsmarks. Obamacare will cut Medicare and kill the elderly to finance Wall Street bailouts.
You have to tell the truth, and put your faith in the American people, whom Benjamin Franklin told, “you have a Republic, if you can keep it.”
Furthermore, the level of vitriol between the Founding Fathers, such as John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson, was extremely intense. They did not shy away from polemical attacks. Yet, after the 1800 election, Adams and Jefferson became good friends, and corresponded for life. They died on the same day, July 4, 1826, 50 years to the day after the Declaration of Independence was signed. This convinced most Americans, correctly, of the divine import in American Exceptionalism.
Senator Amy Klobuchar
“Health Care Priorities and Current Reform Efforts”
4pm
October 12, 2009
Mayo Auditorium
University of Minnesota
Free and open to the public
Calling All Tea Party patriots! Please help me to get the word out! The Pharmaceutical-Military-Industrial-Complex wants to start mass vaccinations here in Mn. First as a condition of employment, then whats next? Banning the right to peaceably assemble! Stand Up for Liberty! “Say No To The Vaccine!” The fascists are coming! (Tyranny)
This is a REALLY GOOD video from a 60 MINUTES episode in 1979 looking back at the 1976 swine flu hysteria.
It will go a long way to helping your cause especially since the same players CDC, overhyped death rates, are again involved in a major case of Deja Vu:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9mh9f_swine-flu-1976-propaganda_webcam
Tyranny — From what source are you getting your information about forced mass vaccinations by the “Pharmaceutical-Military-Industrial-Complex”?
Due to financial times, within the hospital, LPN’s within the Hospital will be laid off. The Hospital is supposedly not eliminating all of the LPN’s. The Union contract has recently expired and there is a 60 day extension. One of managements proposals is mandatory, forced vaccination! The new experimental H1n1 arrives here in Mn tomorrow. Hospital employees’ for the last few years have been required to log into the computer and complete a declination form and they are also asked for what reasons they are refusing. A data base so they can track and trace you. This is health care politics at it’s pure core. The LPN’s are the smallest contract group within the hospital. What I hear from a MNA rep is that the hospital has said vaccinations will not be mandatory. This appears to be a lie. Now, part if not all of the LPN’s will be laid off, and the rest will be forced to vote yes if they want to keep their job. That will set the precedence to illegally set the “mandate” for forced vaccinations for all of the other employees. If you read of reports about employees who do not accept vaccines across the country, in certain areas they are being made to wear masks. What is next a yellow star? Any other health care worker across the state; they are coming after you next with the toxic jab. Please do everything you can to get the truth out. Call the Governor and demand health freedom. Your life may depend on it! This is serious folks. Please help spread the word. Tyranny is descending upon us. Tyranny
Mysteriously missing political photos! I am one of those people who still use one of the ancient cameras with the old film. I am a Tea Party Patriot and SEIU member. CVS pharmacy in St. Paul initially, allegedly lost my photos. The lab manager said, “I processed them.” & then said they must have been given to someone else. After calling management and a supposed investigation with no call back, I called CVS again only to be told, “The order was never processed, it was canceled.” These were several Tea Party Photos, Keith Ellison town hall photos, Democratic health care rally photos and Ron Pauls’ visit to the Northrup photos. I am a health care worker that is facing possible Lay off and the possibility of forced vaccination as a condition of employment. One photo is of Josh from McCollums’ staff who took a picture of me and told me,”I have your face on camera now.” I took his picture back and told him I have a picture of him too. There was nothing illegal or unconstitutional on these photos. Sure would be nice to get my photos back!
SEIU member? You must be finding yourself in a bit of a ’spot’… however you represent many people in the same predicament. It’s very sad that your ‘leadership’ in SEIU has chosen a side in all this mess and decided to throw some or most of membership ‘under the bus’ as they say. This entire disaster is pitting neighbor against neighbor, brother against brother and it could very easily boil over like another civil war, this time it’s about TARP, UAW, forced vaccinations, an intrusive ‘census’… and the list goes on. Many hard working people have started to wake up to the fact that congress is there for one thing… THEMSELVES! You can count on one hand the ones that actually give a &%$#@ about you or I… or for the working middle class that has all but disappeared due to our open door immigration, greedy union bosses, and overbearing gov’t reg’s.
Do You Think Our Senators really care about “affordable,” health care for the average American? Neither Al or Amy has either signed on to S. 604, the senate version of H.R. 1207, that has at least 289 co sponsors. What exactly does “affordable” health care mean? More socialism will only bring more tyranny. What does Employer responsibility mean? Does that mean Budgeting properly and not relying on big brother handouts so the state and federal government can tell them what to do. Does that mean not lying to their employees? Or expanding the size and look of the buildings while laying them off and trying to get rid of any pension. Wake up people the “Public option” Is another term for totalatarian tip toe incrementelisim so that big brother can micromanage every aspect of our lives. The social engineers that brought us medicare are going to bring us a public option that eventually everyone but the so called elite will be forced into. Has anyone seen the stock in verichip lately? Vote yes for real reform. Does anyone know what that means? Real reform means Read The Constitution! Where is health care a right in the constitution? Or maybe you want to live under agenda 21 U.N. Dictatorship? Turn off the TV and read! Tell the congress that we demand health freedom. Tell Them that we demand you read any bill. Tell them that we the people demand time to read and understand any bill. Understand what an individual mandate is. Say No! No last minute additions. No threats of martial law or a breakdown of society. You people that think you have power, don’t you understand that you will be forced to accept the poison too. Please break your conditioning, or maybe you get off on it! You might have a few more toys a few more vacations with a few more drinks to dull your depression of the false reality that you have created. In the meantime your grandchildren will be born with more health problems. Your loved ones will see more and more early onset alzheimers and a breakthrough will be right around the corner with a new implant. Do you know that “herd immunity” is really only pseudoscience? Or maybe you like being treated as cattle. 100% is the goal. Where is the real evidence? It’s hidden in scientific doublespeak. This is herd mentality. Look up^ Look Around We are in a petri dish! Do you know what a “mock up” virus is? MF 59? Aso3? Squalene? GWS? GBS? Read! Investigate! Chan says swine flu is mild, yet Freiden says, “on average flu is not a mild illness.” As Public Enemy would say, “Don’t Believe the Hype!” Prof Griff knows whats going on! Peace! Good, Love& Liberty will prevail! (Tyranny)
10/19/09 Update. After several more phone calls and getting a message to the area manager and loss prevention and asking for a written response if they could not produce my photos. Surprise! My photos were returned today! According to the district manager the lab person suddenly did not remember processing them. Also, a black couple dropped the order off then canceled the order three minutes later. Perhaps after a month it is possible that someone realized they had another persons’ photos. Or maybe someone just didn’t like the fact that there just happened to be a few pictures of some people with “Investigate 9/11″ banners in them. One photo that is priceless is Mr. Ellison pointing to a sign that reads “follow the money.” Following that logic, can anyone please tell me why Keith has not signed onto H.R. 1207 yet? Republicrats and Democans please wake up and quit fighting each other and realize global governance is being set up right before our eyes. Quit worrying about being politically correct and what others might think of you. Or maybe it’s more important to know what the Vikings or the Twin’s did or or who was the latest Hollywood star to have an affair or what the latest fashion is? Does anyone care that we are being brainwashed poisoned and enslaved and more socialism is on the way? Do you want your children and grandchildren to know what it means to be free? Is this a “conspiracy theory?” Or rather, “An alliance of convenience?” Liberate America! Say no to socialism! Don’t tread on me! (Tyranny)
New Event:
Operation Can You Hear Us Now
Rally at KARE 11 (8811 Olson Memorial Hwy, Golden Valley) Oct 17, 3 PM
Contact: Dave Stanoch dstanoch@hotmail.com
I will help in any way I can, beginning with prayer. I have a memeorial service that day, but will try to squeeze it all in. Tea Parties at TV stations, love it!
Parking will be on the South/West Service road running parallel with Olson Memorial (hwy 55). From hwy 55, Go South on General Mills Blvd./ take first right, Ensign Ave./ at “T’ turn right.
Will be coming from Sebeka( north central how far away is that?
3 hours 172 miles
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=8811+Olson+Memorial+Hwy,+Golden+Valley&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=8811+Olson+Memorial+Hwy,+Minneapolis,+MN+55427&gl=us&ei=8NTGSr-DM4bsswOWyISiBQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1
Sebeka…??? Did you go the the tea party at Fungus Fills?
In case y’all don’t know about it yet, there’s another set of rallies that are being held nationwide, all on the same day, all focused on media outlets. Here’s a link to their web page:
http://www.operationcanyouhearusnow.com/
You guys got wind of this yet?
http://action.seiu.org/page/event/detail/insurancedayofaction/wrlz
Stand up to UnitedHealthcare (Insurance Day of Action)
Join SEIU members and our progressive allies as we highlight UnitedHealthcare’s actions to block health insurance reform and continue making huge profits at the expense of regular Americans.
Time: Tuesday, September 22 from 9:30 AM – 11:30 AM
Host: Greg Namacker
Location:
UnitedHealthcare HQ (Edina, MN)
5816 Lincoln Drive
Edina, MN 55436
Yeah, moveon.org is doing a similar thing at NC US Sen (D) Kay Hagan’s offices in Greensboro, NC & DC along with the Greensboro United Healthcare office.
This protest was an attempt by the socialists/fascists to intimidate a business. The socialists/fascists do not want a business to make any decisions that are not government approved. People and businesses are to serve the government. A government run by an elite group that “deserves” to run everything because they are smarter and more compassionate than anyone else. The socialists/fascists have demonstrated their intelligence by solving all of our country’s problems. Thanks to them there is no more poverty or unemployment, no more racism or discrimination of any kind. They did all this with your tax dollar not theirs. Their generous and compassionate donations have funded charities to the point where the charities will soon be out of business.
I think they just feel that death panels should not be run by the government, but stay where they belong – with private companies.
See, that’s where allowing for open competition solves for the “denied insurance” scenario because you’ll find companies popping up to fill that niche for commonly turned down individuals.
I had the same scenario happen to me with a small business when I got screwed over by a large credit card processing company that took away my ability to process VISA/MC in large part because they failed to fully educate me (and other merchants) on the proper use of AVS systems.
BUT…I was given processing rights by a provider that specialized in terminated merchant cases.
Competition solves for problems while monopolies create them.
Remove the ban on interstate commerce for health insurance and LOWER COSTS, IMPROVED CARE, and NEW JOBS will be the immediate result.
The British Health Service euthanasia program was introduced as a pilot project in 2003 and 2004 by Simon Stevens, Blair’s chief adviser on health policy from 2001 to 2004. In 2007, Stevens went to the United States to spread the euthanasia project there. Stevens became vice president of Minnesota-based UnitedHealth, the massive private health insurance company for the U.S. and Britain. Stevens’ official job is to advise all private health insurers to get behind the new agenda for health-care reform.
It is pretty hilarious that Move On will protest United Health, since both promote Euthanasia. George Soros is the biggest promoter of Euthanasia globally.
In 1994, George Soros began his Project on Death in America, designed to train leaders in spreading a culture of death, euthanasia, and cultural pessimism throughout American medicine. “Soros Scholars” were trained and paid to infiltrate medical centers and medical schools. They were to implement a propaganda campaign, largely financed by the pro-euthanasia Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, for the abandonment of high-technology medicine in favor of acceptance of death and the heavy use of narcotics.
Linda Emanuel was a top leader of this enterprise. She founded and led the Education for Physicians on End of Life Care (EPEC). The EPEC curriculum was developed with Charles F. von Gunten (a Soros Scholar), Frank F. Ferris (Soros), and Russell Portenoy (Soros). The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation gave $5 million to fund EPEC, and Soros gave about $140,000.
Linda Emanuel, by then a professor of bioethics at Harvard, also set up the Institute for Ethics for the American Medical Association. The goal of that entity within the AMA was to educate its member doctors on hospice and palliative care, as an alternative to curing people, so that killing them with poison would not be necessary. The AMA’s program was funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.
Michael, it’s not a “ban” but merely what has been auhtorized by the US Constitution; that being insurance regulation is covered at the State level. If you truly want the federal government out of your life, you should be wary of them taking over regulation of insurance coverage. Especially, if the Feds have to step in to keep insurnace companies from concentrating on “friendly” states that costs consumers. It’s one of those things that isn’t as simple as people think.
@Dave – please elaborate on the Constitutional part that maintains this. I’m assuming you’re referring to the interstate commerce clause.
Yes, insurance coverage is SUPPOSED to be covered at the state level, but this was lightly touched on in the ‘08 election debates where it was clearly outlined that it was the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT who put in the ban on interstate commerce for health insurance.
I’m simply suggesting they remove/undo their original mistake.
However, if you can tell how it’s the states that are responsible and hold the sole power to remove the ban on interstate commerce, I’ll gladly go hunting down that trail to fix this issue on the state levels.
“Especially, if the Feds have to step in to keep insurnace companies from concentrating on “friendly” states that costs consumers. It’s one of those things that isn’t as simple as people think.”
Again, the car insurance model proves that this isn’t the case. Because automobiles are just as much subject to “friendly” state concentration when you factor in higher rates for auto damage in states plagued by hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, etc.
And even if you had the “friendly” state concentration scenario, the costs for the “unfriendly” states will still be far less than they are now.
Congratulations Tea Party! Your revolt has reached the European Parliament!
Italian MEP: The American People Are Revolting Against Financial Oligarchies
September 18, 2009 (LPAC) — Lega Nord faction chief at the European Parliament Mario Borghezio, called for Europe to follow the “people’s revolt against financial oligarchies, as in the United States,” in a speech yesterday on the floor. The plenary session of the European Parliament had been called to discuss the next G-20 meeting.
“We the people,” Borghezio said, “do not believe in bailout policies for financial institutions, which are paid for by taxpayers. Instead, European governments should give enough resources to the real economy.” The Lega Nord representative illustrated figures on the global bailout ($23 trillion), which have been already allocated to bail out those responsible for the financial bubble, and he attacked the failing or incomplete measures to put a cap on bonuses and to eliminate tax havens. “What confidence could people have in regulation of the financial markets, which is entrusted to the priests of globalist temples, such as Draghi?” Borghezio asked.
“The truth is that high finance commands and politics obeys, both in the United States and in Europe, where politicians are the servants of the globalist banking power.”
Borghezio also referred to the “popular revolt taking place in America against financial oligarchies,” and concluded: “Europe, wake up! Follow the example of the American people, who are starting a second revolution of freedom!”
Hi All- Just a little info for everyone- Yes they are talking about cutting off funds to ACORN but I wonder if they will still receive grant money.
This year there was grant money available for Fire Prevention Week. Many fired depts applied for this money, so did ACORN!. Many fire depts were turned down for the much needed money. Money needed to inform young and old about fire prevention, yet ACORN was granted…. $900,000.00 yep nine hundred thousand dollars!. I didnt know they were fire safety/prevention trained. This is how they get their funding!!!!
We all NEED to contact our worthless represenatatives and senators and tell them to cancel this grant immediately and refunnel that $900,000.00 to the F.D.s’ so they can teach our children and not have to use fire fighting money to do it! Once again the heroes are short changed and the criminals are rewarded by this Admin. I doubt many F.D.s asked for that kind of moneyPlease make some noise about this issue before they receive the money.
JRN
This is certainly a great opportunity for the fire dept’s that really need something, to step forward and say ‘hey, would ya’ rather give money to ACORN or your local fire dept., that is always there for you’? They never get a crack in the armor like this.
First of all thanks to all who put together a great evening. It is time for patriots to stand up to what is being done to our country.
Some thoughts:
Please don’t let people READ from the podium. I could see people glazing over within 20 seconds as soon as we were being read to! I appreciate what you were trying to do, but reading the constituion is a sure fire way to put people to sleep.
What happened to attendance? Was it advertised on the radio at all? Like other mind numbed robots, I listen to the radio a lot during the day, and I never heard a THING about the tea party!
That’s all, appreciate all your hard work.
God bless America!
Climate Change -
Here is my response to Oberstars June 30 email since finding out about the Dept. Of Treasury Letter to Obama dated 3/9/09 in which they state that the cost is $1761.00 per family
Correspondence: Mr. Oberstar, On 6/30/09 you had responded to an email from me re: climate change in that you stated ” The Congressional Budget Office calculated that the legislation would cost the average U.S. household about $175 a year — a postage stamp a day.” This was also stated by Mr. Waxman (.40 a day in April and again as a postage stamp by the president in May?. However, I know find that the President and you were issued a report on 3/9/09 from the DEPT. OF TREASURY advising that the cost will be $1761.00 per familiy per year. Now, by my calculations , and me being just a citizen and all….. that adds up to way more than “a postage stamp a day”.If you add the rebates that will be given to the poor of this country that $1761.000 per family will probably at least double. So you are in fact taxing the average tax payer at more that 15% above our income taxes. What a deal! After digesting all of this I have a question- did you lie as did the president regarding this issue( as he undoubatably had that report) or were you kept in the dark and not told of this report? Please makle your answer short and honest either you were in the dark or you lied- your choice. Thankyou and I await your response JRN
Has anyone seen Glenn Beck tonight and the lie Obama and Waxman told about the climate bill cost per family? It comes to 1761 per houshold without adding rebates to the poor. That is about a 15% increase in the average taxpayer income tax bill NOT a postage stamp a day as stated.
Well- Mr. Oberstar made the same claim in an email to me in June of this year- Here is my latest email to him everyone may want to challange him on this email:
Dear Mr. Nardello:
Thank you for sharing with me your opposition to legislation that would reduce greenhouse gas emissions. I appreciate your advocacy.
On June 26, the House of Representatives passed the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 (H.R. 2454) by a vote of 219 to 212. I supported the bill after ensuring that several concerns I had about potential economic hardship to the 8th District were addressed. The resulting language makes important progress toward promoting clean energy and reducing carbon emissions in the United States.
The legislation would create millions of new, clean energy jobs; enhance America’s energy security by reducing our dependence on imported oil from countries ruled by dictators; and protect the environment for many generations to come.
Additionally, this legislation would help America become the world leader in manufacturing clean energy technologies. For example, a single wind turbine contains up to 400 tons of steel and 8,000 parts. The clean energy economy will create jobs here in America to produce these technologies, and there is no reason American steel produced from Minnesota taconite cannot play a role in this new economy.
The Congressional Budget Office calculated that the legislation would cost the average U.S. household about $175 a year — a postage stamp a day.
I am pleased that agreement was reached to clarify the definition of renewable biomass to protect the 8th District’s vital wood product sector, as well as to make the iron ore industry eligible for emission allowances to prevent the loss of jobs on the Iron Range.
While we may respectfully disagree on this legislation, I hope to earn your support on the principle of an energy policy that moves our country toward energy independence and clean electricity generation. The legislation is now under consideration by the U.S. Senate.
With best wishes.
Sincerely,
James L. Oberstar, M.C.
JLO/meg
SEEMS Mr. Oberstar has issues with the truth just like the annointed one Obama.
Hi – I am excited to hear about the Tea Party tonight however since my home computer has been down for two months I just heard about it today. I listen to most of the local and national talk shows; was it announced in the media? If it was I missed it. Just wanted to be sure the word is getting out.
I sure hope that a lot of people make it out today for the Tea Party at the Capitol.
It was fun meeting the other protesters at the Obamacare rally on Saturday, but it would have been cool if more people had shown up.
See you all tonight!!
On Wednesday October 7th at the Ridgedale Public Library (12601 Ridgedale Dr, Minnetonka, MN 55305) there will be a “Take Back America Rally” from 7 to 9 PM hosted by the A1S8 Society LLC. Thr rally is free and open to the public. Come to the rally to hear how we can end the incremental advance of socialism that is the drive for universal health care. We know what the problem is. Let’s start working on a solution!
Obamacare wants to import the British National Health Service to America. That is why it is truthful to say, “Obama Lies, Grandma Dies.”
A British National Health Service-commissioned report by McKinsey and Company, calling for saving $32 billon per year by drastic cuts in health care, was leaked to the press last week. King’s Fund chief economist John Appleby (quoted in Time magazine, Sept. 9, 2009) responded that these savings must be accomplished by finding “ways to counter rising health-care costs associated with an aging population, expensive new medical treatments and rising patient expectations.” King’s Fund chief executive Niall Dickson chimed in that, rather than doing more with less resources, “Doing less with less seems a more realistic scenario.”
The Royal euthanasia program was introduced as a pilot project in 2003 and 2004 by Simon Stevens, Blair’s chief adviser on health policy from 2001 to 2004. In 2007, Stevens went to the United States to spread the euthanasia project there. Stevens became vice president of Minnesota-based UnitedHealth, the massive private health insurance company for the U.S. and Britain. Stevens’ official job is to advise all private health insurers to get behind the new agenda for health-care reform.
Continuing as a trustee of the King’s Fund for Prince Charles in London, Simon Stevens connects President Obama with the London-Wall Street axis, for implementation of the urgent cost cutting strategy in the face of financial catastrophe.
Interesting. Good to meet you.
Let us not be confused with stories such as this. The only reference found to the royal euthanasia program is published on Lyndon Larouche’s website: http://www.larouchepac.com/node/11722.
Another related article is at http://www.larouchepac.com/node/11454. It is pretty well established that Lyndon Larouche is behind the “nazi” connection of the Obama health care plan. We should in no way connect the Tea Party program with this radical.
I haven’t been able to contact my friend who works at the Target Center find out more about Pres. Obama’s visit. That is not surprising considering the security problems involved in a presidential visit. The best thing we can do is show up to exercise our Constitutionally protected, G*D given right, of free speech. The more people the better!
Mark, I believe that on Saturdays the parking meters are free. Parking will be a problem. The roads into the area might also be closed so plan on extra travel time. Because of security concerns the closest parking might be several blocks away. So plan on walking maybe as much as half a mile. No one ever said that the defense of liberty would be easy.
Thank you, Bryan!! I may not be there at 7:00 AM, but I’ll be there!
There is, I believe, a possiblity that attempts will be made to prevent us from getting into the Target Center. Should that happen civility is the way to behave. With the hostile media of the Twin Cities anything and everything we do will be used against us and a presidential visit will bring the media out in large numbers!
Sorry, Bryan. I don’t know how to use Facebook.
We really need a good showing for this Secret visit on Sat at the TArget center; I will be there!
Currently the plan is to meet across the street from the Target Center, on Block E by the Starbucks, from 7 AM. There is a Facebook event for this gathering. Check my FB page to find it.
Is there any nearby, low-cost parking around there?
So we just need to show up with our signs and be prepared to show our vehement opposition to Obamacare, right? I’ll be there!
I spoke with a friend of mine who works at the Target Center. I will get more information about Pres. Obama’s visit tonight and will relay what I learn in a post tomorrow.
There is a gathering being planned for Saturday the 12th at the Target Center starting at 9 AM and going until noon.
(Why is my 2nd post not showing? I’ll try this again.) I agree. What is going on HERE on Saturday while obama is in town? I doubt everyone is able to go to DC.
Whups. Let’s get this at the top. What is going on HERE on Saturday while obama is in town?
President Obama will be at the Target Center this Saturday. Is there any plans for showing opposition to his Healthcare Plan by protesting at the event?
Showing opposition…??? Well let me think of the ways… I guess that decision would hinge on whether Nancy and Barney are going to be there or not
May as well get all them into the same place at the same time…. if ya know what I mean… Lets face it kids, We ARE being taken over the cliff, and we have been back peddling, kicking and screaming all the way… however, soon we will be hanging by our fingernails. Ben Franklin said something along the lines of, we must all hang together… or we will will hang separately.
The only way to stop these guys is to start promoting a better solution instead of only attacking their plan.
If we modeled health insurance after our successful car insurance model by breaking up state monopolies, competition will:
1) Lower Costs
2) Improve Care
3) CREATE JOBS!!!
4) Not cost a Trillion, Billion, or even a Million to implement, just a simple piece of legislation that removes the obstructive regulation to interstate commerce in health insurance.
In the speech, it was said “without competition, you get monopolies” use these words to our advantage!
Yes! What’s happening HERE on the 12th when obama is in town?
Tech High? The Michelle Bachman info has all said Lake George. Is this a change?
Michelle is having a townhall meeting @ Tech from 8:30 until 10. She will then be at the Tea Party from 10:30 until 1 @ Lake George
#Healthcare Town Hall Michelle Bachman(R) Sat Sept 12, 09 830a-10a Tech High School gym 233 12th Ave S, St Cloud MN #teaparty #tcot #tpp #gop
September 4, 2009 (LPAC)—The following letter to the editor of the Daily Telegraph is merely the latest, most explosive exposure of the Nazi health policy implemented in Britain under Tony Blair and his health adviser, Simon Stevens, who is now working with United Health in collaboration with AARP. The report by the Patients’ Association referred to in the letter, exposed that one million NHS patients received cruel or neglectful care. Another recent report, by the National Patient Safety Agency (NPSA), estimates that the number of NHS patients who have been given the wrong medicine has doubled in the last two years. A further report indicates that a third of patients are being treated by nurses rather than doctors at General Practitioner surgeries.
This is the policy which Obama is desperately attempting to impose on the population of the United States of America.
Here is the evidence of what is in store for Americans if Obama were to succeed. You decide who is the Nazi.
“SIR The Patients Association has done well to expose the poor treatment of elderly patients in some parts of the NHS (report, August 27). We would like to draw attention to the new gold standard treatment of those categorised as dying. Forecasting death is an inexact science.
“Just as, in the financial world, so-called algorithmic banking has caused problems by blindly following a computer model, so a similar tick-box approach to the management of death is causing a national crisis in care.
“The Government is rolling out a new treatment pattern of palliative care into hospitals, nursing and residential homes. It is based on experience in a Liverpool hospice. If you tick all the right boxes in the Liverpool Care Pathway, the inevitable outcome of the consequent treatment is death.
“As a result, a nationwide wave of discontent is building up, as family and friends witness the denial of fluids and food to patients. Syringe drivers are being used to give continuous terminal sedation, without regard to the fact that the diagnosis could be wrong.
“It is disturbing that in the year 2007-2008, 16.5 per cent of deaths came about after terminal sedation. Experienced doctors know that sometimes, when all but essential drugs are stopped, dying patients get better.” [Emphasis added]
P. H. Millard Emeritus Professor of Geriatrics University of London Dr Anthony Cole Chairman, Medical Ethics Alliance Dr Peter Hargreaves Consultant in Palliative Medicine Dr David Hill Fellow of the Faculty of Anaesthetists of the Royal College of Surgeons Dr Elizabeth Negus Lecturer, Barking University Dowager Lady Salisbury Chairman, Choose Life
Tea Party IN Fergus Falls?
None that I know of, jeffrey jacobs.
There IS one scheduled in Thief River Falls, Sept. 12th. Starting at 5 pm at the fairgrounds on the west edge of town.
email me for more information. kimbarb@gvtel.com
Not long ago I recorded a tribute song titled “The Eagle and The Lady” for all those involved in this effort. It is now on YouTube and available for anyone in the movement that would like to make use of it.
Feel free to use it in any way that is beneficail… I want nothing in return.
Please check it out at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbZHppqRgHU
I thank God there are people like you working so hard to save our country!
This health care bill is merely the latest one. Universal health care has been a goal of the Democrats since 1944. What is being done to stop future health care bills? What is being done to make sure that should HR 3200 be defeated portions of it will not be added to other bills as late night, last minute amendments?
I went to education.org to research how much money our state’s educator’s union has spent on its near ubiquitous advertising. Posted on their homepage was a schedule for union-organized pro-socialized medicine (a.k.a. healthcare reform) rallies. I’ve called Sen. Klobuchar’s office for weeks trying to find out when and where I could see her in person to discuss the so-called healthcare reform, and I was always told nothing was scheduled. Well, it seems Klobuchar met with the teachers union — surprise — on August 27. Pasted below is the union’s scheduled pro-socialized medicine rallies.
Health care reform events planned
Your voice as a union member needs to be heard on health care reform. Plan to attend one of the following events:
Aug. 27, 4:30 p.m. – Health Care for America Now Rally at the offices of U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar and U.S. Rep. Tim Walz, 1134 Seventh St. N.W., Rochester
Aug. 29, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. – Fargo Health Care Rally at the Fargodome lot
Sept. 1, 6:30 p.m. – Town Hall Send Off for Health Care with state Rep. Erin Murphy, Mt. Zion Synagogue, 1300 Summit Ave., St. Paul
Sept. 2, 6:30-8:30 p.m. – Health Care for America Now! Congressional Send-Off Event, Plymouth Creek Center, 14800 34th Ave. N., Plymouth
Thanks, Wayne, for leaving this notice. I also notice that Betty McCollum’s meeting of last night was publicized for union members but no notice for the rest of her constituents. I plan to be at the meeting at Mt. Zion Synagogue this evening. Bill.
Is it no wonder that they don’t want to hear from those of us who are tired of paying for some of those gov’t/union benefits that many of the rest of us had to give up. This bunch has shown their hand as of last fall, bailing out the U.A.W. that had sunken the mighty GM… and Chrysler. Forced to make deals with the devil, (UAW) they can longer compete in the car market due to these mob style contracts forced on them by greedy union bosses. They should have been left to die on a Friday and have all the ‘former’ employees re-apply for their jobs on Monday, they could have shed all the legacy programs that had killed them. Applicants would have had a choice to make with a realistic wage, health care, retirement package… take it or leave it. A large part of the American work force is spoiled rotten.
I noticed someone posted about BRING HOME on this site and I wanted to follow up with a recent video we finished that explains the idea and the strategy and how it relates to health care:
“HELP MY MOM”
URL link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB7S9ZbH9V8
EMBED CODE:
Liberal Media Freakout at the demise of Obamacare. Follow the links to the New York Times article which defends the National Socialist Doctor Ezekiel “Easy Kill” Emanuel, chief health advisor to Obama, and brother of chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. Here is what he really said:
An essay published in the Hastings Center Report (Nov-Dec 1996) by Emanuel, Norman Daniels and Bruce Jennings, says in part:
“This civic republican or deliberative democratic conception of the good provides both procedural and substantive insights for developing a just allocation of health care resources. Procedurally, it suggests the need for public forums to deliberate about which health services should be considered basic and should be socially guaranteed. Substantively, it suggests services that promote the continuation of the polity – those that ensure healthy future generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberation – are to be socially guaranteed as basic. Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.”
Here the liberals defend him. Ask not where a liberal stands; ask where he lies.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/142246/mccaughey,_bachmann,_palin,_larouche_–_this_is_your_gop,_redux/
http://minnesotaindependent.com/42783/bachmann-democrats-are-calling-obama-a-nazi
Here is how we can stop HR 3200 and any all future health care bills AND reduce the size of our government.
A BILL TO REPEAL THE 1943 CURRENT PAYMENT TAX ACT (CPTA)
The definition of taxes withheld for the purposes of this bill; Any money deducted from an employee’s, self employed person’s, or independent contractor’s pay to fund any and all activities of the Federal government.
This bill is to stop the automatic withholding of all Federal taxes, primarily but not limited to income and FICA taxes, from being paid before the person who earns that income gets paid. Therefore the automatic withholding of all taxes from a person’s pay, whether as an employee, self employed, or independent contractor shall cease six months after the effective date of this bill.
The payment of taxes will be done once a year with the date of said payment moved from the 15th of April to the 15th of October. To insure the payment of all taxes owed the money that had been deducted is to be put in a savings account, the interest on which shall be tax free, and paid by personal check, cashier’s check, or money order.
When we deny Uncle Sam the right to get paid before we do, which is what happens with the automatic withholding of taxes by the 1943 CPTA, our government grows. The reason for the change of when taxes are due, from April 15th to October 15th, is that election day is about three weeks later. When you pay your taxes and then three later vote on who will represent you in Congress just might have an effect on how you vote. It might even have an effect on what our members of Congress do.
Tea Party assignment: get a copy of the VA booklet :
Last year, bureaucrats at the VA’s National Center for Ethics in Health Care advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, “Your Life, Your Choices.” It was first published in 1997 and later promoted as the VA’s preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes. After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues, the VA suspended its use. Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated “Your Life, Your Choices.”
It was written by euthanasia assisted suicide Dr. Robert Pearlman, and references the Hemlock Society in the end of the book for more information. Chris Wallace interviewed the Doctor who exposed the booklet yesterday on Fox news, and gave the VA rep a hard time to explain all this.
Remember where all this death panel stuff comes from: Wall Street wants to cut Medicare by $1 trillion dollars. Their agents are Peter Orzag and Larry Summers in the Obamination.
Glenn, here is a link to a .pdf copy of “Your Life, Your Choice”. The Chris Wallace interview involving Tammy Duckworth was a classic.
http://www.rihlp.org/pubs/Your_life_your_choices.pdf
Here is what I posted on twitter.com in re Amy Klobuchar tele-town hall propaganda events
Updated Twitter, Myspace, Bebo, Linkedin, Brightkite and Plurk today at 19:25.
I am currently on the teleconference town hall with MN Senator Amy Klobuchar. Sounds like a lot of softball question but a couple tough one
Updated Twitter, Myspace, Bebo, Linkedin, Brightkite and Plurk today at 19:25.
RE Klobuchar tele-town hall – I wasn’t rung in until 24 minutes before end, then had to *3 to ask question, obviously at bottom of of que
Updated Twitter, Myspace, Bebo, Linkedin, Brightkite and Plurk today at 19:25.
RE MN Sen Klobuchar tele-townhall: Sounds like Obama in full retreat,She said Senate bill not like House Bill & sounded like a free marketer
Updated Twitter, Myspace, Bebo, Linkedin, Brightkite and Plurk today at 19:25.
Perhaps time right to suggest Obama drop Government power grab bill & fix free market health care deficits re insurance, tort & safety net
Respectfully,
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot
Amy Klobuchar’s ‘fake’ Tele – Town Hall
I signed up to be on Amy Klobuchar’s tele-town hall tonight. Got the confirmation email, even got the complementary reminder phone call Friday night. What didn’t I get? I didn’t get the call to join the tele-town hall call.
Surprise!
Her website gave a number to call by 7:10, if you hadn’t received the call by then. Called it and, Yeah. No answer and mail box is full.
Surprise!
She will probably be talking this one up, how she reached out to her constituents and all. I suspect she only called registered Democrats, Union sheeple and Move On members….
Still not supporting the Health Care Bill, and want Washington to answer how they can say we can keep our coverage, when section 102 states the opposite..
Ellen
ENTRY IN JOHN ADAMS’ DIARY, December 17, 1773 � day after the Boston Tea Party
There is a Dignity, a Majesty, a Sublimity, in this last Effort of the Patriots, that I greatly admire. The People should never rise, without doing something to be remembered � something notable and striking. This Destruction of the Tea is so bold, so daring, so firm, intrepid, and inflexible, and it must have important Consequences, and so lasting, that I can’t but consider it as an Epocha in History.
Footnote: the Boston Tea Party, dressed as Mohawk Indians, dumped the Tea of the British East India Company, which carried a monopoly of trade for the British Empire; the same colonial empire still exists in the modern form of the Anglo-American London-Wall Street financial axis of evil.
I am looking for people who are interested in chartering a bus or buses to make the trip to DC on September 12. I have secured information on charters, and if anyone is interested, we can put together the periphery pretty quickly. Contact me at lmc7383@gmail.com
Rise like Lions after slumber
in unvanquishable number –
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you -
Ye are many – they are few.
Percy Bysshe Shelley
see: http://www.ukcolumn.org/
100,000 circulation newspaper in United Kingdom against British National Health System (NICE)
Of course she won’t go face to face… she’s scared we will be in her face!!! Isn’t this the same ‘cradle to graver’ that voted to ban toys with lead in them… small snowmobiles, ATV’s and mini bikes… cuz’ kids might eat he brake cable for lunch, or the gear case side cover for a midnight snack… she needs quick replacement and all bills this bunch of clowns has passed to be repealed ASAP!
Wildman
Wildman, I’m really hoping you and Toni sign-up for the tele-town hall. I always enjoy your posts, and we need to make our voices heard, respectively, of course.
I’m all signed up! I doubt she will let me ask a question though! I did list my questions for the Obamacare Conference today… Did not get the invite nor the link!
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Time-critical announcement: Sen. Klobuchar is holding a tele-town hall at 7 PM Sunday, August 23, 2009. To participate, you must sign up by noon, Friday, August 21 — TOMORROW — at her website (http://klobuchar.senate.gov/index.cfm). Staff at her Minneapolis office informed me Klobuchar has not planned any face-to-face town hall meetings for the summer, so this may be the only chance anyone has to voice their opinions to her directly (time permitting).
When it comes to vote on Pres. Obama’s health care plan every (real) Republican member of Congress should get up and walk out of the House and Senate. Let the Democrats pass this bill all by themselves! Who knows a walkout by the Republicans could scare the Democrats that don’t like this bill into voting against it despite the arm twisting that the Obama administration has done.
I said the same thing on election night… jes’ let them have it all and take us down as fast as they can… ‘we the people’ can come along later and clean up the mess. It is the only way spoiled americans learn lessons, however, with many of us invading congressional offices every week, there are a few cracks in the dam. I wish we didn’t have to go down this ugly road, but it’s time to show these people for what they are. The Barney Franks and Kieth Ellisons of the world are so entrenched in the ways of DC, they have no clue to the world the rest of us live in.
Excellent summary and analysis of Obama’s Health Care Deform on Patriot Politics. http://www.patriotpolitics.com
Nazi Health Care Blowback Now Has Obama’s Cap-and-Trade on the Rocks
August 18, 2009 (LPAC)—Four Democratic Senators from Plains States wrote to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Aug. 14 saying they oppose passing the Obama White House’s cap-and-trade legislation. The so-called Waxman-Markey green-fascist “global warming carbon tax” bill passed the House earlier this year, but with a popular mass strike in motion against Obama’s policies, the defection of the four Senators—Blanche Lincoln (Ark.), Ben Nelson (Neb.), Kent Conrad and Byron Dorgan (N.D.)—appears to mean it can’t pass the Senate.
The Senators propose instead passing a bill merely encouraging wind, solar, etc. without the carbon tax, the “cap-and-trade.” But they’re really being pushed by the uprising against Obama. Lincoln, in two weeks, has gone from echoing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi that the town hall protests were “un-American,” to saying the health-care “reform” should be slowed down, this is the message of her constituents.
LPAC confirmed today that 75 Members of the House of Representatives opposed the Obama White House’s “IMAC” idea for an appointed national health-care board with independent and automatic power to cut or eliminate tests, drugs, procedures, and medical care generally to seniors, poor, and disabled people. The bipartisan group of 45 Democrats and 30 Republicans “closed” gathering signatures on their letter on July 31 when Congress recessed, and could clearly gather more opposition now (see LPAC Breaking News of Aug. 14).
The letter initiated by Rep. Richard Neal (D-Mass.) was to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, demanding she not propose to put this IMAC, “or any like proposal, in HR 3200 or any other legislation,” as Obama and OMB Director Peter Orszag unconditionally demand.
Lyndon LaRouche has called this IMAC Obama’s copy of Hitler’s “Tiergarten 4″ euthanasia policy (1939 – 1941) , a charge now linked to LaRouche’s name in town meetings all over the United States, and in media all over the world.
The signers of the Neal letter are both liberal Democrats and conservative Republicans, with particularly strong representation from New York, California, and Massachusetts.
Senator Klobuchar is in hiding! I have called her office several times, checked varies websites and sent her e-mails on when and where she will be on her “20 county” visit. Her staff claims that they can only release that information 1-2 days in advance and they are not allowed to release which counties she will visit. Here’s part of the
e-mail I received from Klobuchar’s office, “One of the most important parts of my job is listening to what the people of Minnesota have to say to me.” Step up Senator Klobuchar, let the people of Minnesota ask you questions and express their concerns at open town hall meetings!
Sherry
Does anyone know if there will be a booth at the Mn State Fair for us?? I think it would be a great time to gather some additional support.
This article is a must read.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/beware_the_counterrevolution.html
PL -
Thanks for recommending Andrew Thomas’s article (Beware the Counterrevolution; @ http://www.americanthinker.com). Among other thoughtful points, Thomas warns against complacency, writing that ‘…the struggle between liberty and socialism will never end, at least not in our lifetimes. If by chance it does, it will be because evil has triumphed. As long as people are free to make their own choices, some of those choices will always be for self-destruction or slavery (moral masochism). That is just the nature of human beings. However, once the slavery of socialism is self-imposed through trickery or stealth, there are no more choices. That is the weakness of a free people.’
Wayne
The American College of Surgeons, with more than 74,000 members, issued a blistering statement on Aug. 12, blasting President Obama for his statements claiming that surgeons perform many surgeries unnecessarily, just for the money.
The Surgeons’ statement cited Obama’s comments in the Portsmouth, NH town meeting the previous day, that a surgeon gets paid $50,000 for a leg amputation; they charge that the President “got his facts completely wrong…in fact, Medicare only pays a surgeon between $740 and $1,140 for a leg amputation.”
“Three weeks ago,” they continue, “the President suggested that a surgeon’s decision to remove a child’s tonsils is based on the desire to make a lot of money. That remark was ill-informed and dangerous, and we were dismayed by this characterization of the work surgeons do. Surgeons make decisions about recommending operations based on what’s right for the patient.
“The President’s remarks are truly alarming and run the risk of damaging the all-important trust between surgeons and their patients,” they conclude. “We assume that the President made these mistakes unintentionally, but we would urge him to have his facts correct before making another inflammatory and incorrect statement about surgeons and surgical care.”
Does anyone know when and where Amy Klobuchar will be? Like Toni and others, I can’t get a straight answer from her staff.
Thanks,
Wayne
Rep. Collin Peterson will be holding a town hall meeting Fri 8/14 from 2:00 – 3:30 in Willmar at the Health & Human Services Bldg in the multi-purpose room.
Peterson is also holding a town hall in Bemidji, on Monday the 17th at 1pm.
Though advertised in places as Town Hall meetings, apparently both are Round Table meetings with speaker(s?) and Question/Answer sessions. Both are open to the public.
Barb
Tired of hearing about how St. Paul and Washington has wasted your money? Here’s a way to stop a BILLION dollars of MN taxpayers money from being wasted on a new light rail. For all those who still think $1 billion is a lot of money voice your opinion at one of the up coming Open Houses.
Getting Educated:
http://www.startribune.com/local/south/52921492.html?elr=KArksc8P:Pc:U0ckkD:aEyKUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU
http://www.southwesttransitway.org/
Attend a Southwest Transitway Open House!
Attend an open house to learn about the proposed Southwest Light Rail Project!
Tuesday, August 11 6:30 to 8:00 PM
Station Area Planning Presentation at 7:00 PM
Hopkins City Hall
1010 1st Street S. Hopkins, MN 55343 map
Thursday, August 13 11:30 AM to 1:00 PM
Downtown Minneapolis Library
300 Nicollet Mall Minneapolis, MN 55401 map
Thursday, August 13 6:30 to 8:00 PM
Station Area Planning Presentation at 7:00 PM
Marriott Southwest Hotel in Minnetonka
5801 Opus Parkway Minnetonka, MN 55343 map
Tuesday, August 18 6:30 to 8:00 PM
Station Area Planning Presentation at 7:00 PM
St. Louis Park City Hall
5005 Minnetonka Blvd. St. Louis Park, MN 55416 map
Wednesday, August 19 6:30 to 8:00 PM
Station Area Planning Presentation at 7:00 PM
Eden Prairie City Hall
8080 Mitchell Road Eden Prairie, MN 55344 map
Thursday, September 17 6:30 PM
Southwest Policy Advisory Committee Public Hearing
Eisenhower Community Center
1001 Highway 7 Hopkins, MN 55305 map
All Tea Baggers…
Check out this article:
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/4451/teabags_vs._douchebags/
Straight from the Alinski (poor coping skill) handbook… The fact that you associate yourself with such terms is evidence of your values or lack there of…
The people who use the terms “tea baggers” and “tea bagging” describe themselves well.
My label for you is miss-informed, indoctrinated, or operative.
Alan, come on my show! Don’t be a hit and runner!
Toni No Bologny Show
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It was a great show!! Alan came on and we had several callers from coast to coast and here is the result:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/SocialistSquirrel/2009/08/15/Tea-Time-with-Toni-No-Bologny
To Alan L. Maki –
OK. I read David Sirota’s opinion piece entitled ‘Teabags Vs Douchebags’, the article you wanted subscribers to this site to read. Well. I gave the article an honest read. It’s cleverly written by a guy who clearly fancies himself an intellectual, but who doesn’t possess the intellectual wattage to convince earnest readers he’s anything but a charlatan, a mountebank. His rambling and historically inaccurate message seems to hector Obama and the Democratic majority in Congress to ’stop spending their time ridiculing’ the tea party movement and quickly force their agenda through Congress before the economy improves, and they lose the opportunity our current economic downturn has given them to foist their agenda on an unwilling citizenry. But Rahm Emanuel already stated the rallying cry for this administration and its supine Congress: ‘Never let a crisis go to waste.’
I’ll assume you agree with the opinions Sirota wrongly asserts as facts in his piece, after all, you referenced the article. Sirota claims the tea party phenomenon is another right-wing conspiracy, funded and ‘organized by corporate lobbyists and backed by the same moneyed Republican douchebags that drove the economy into the ground.’
Judging by Sirota’s carefully crafted version of American history, an inaccurate version intended to distort reality, Sirota must be referring to himself, to his own bias, when he claims that ‘the truth doesn’t really matter.’ How else can a careful reader interpret the many historical facts he twists and the salient facts he neglects to mention — let’s call them inconvenient truths. Truths such as: (1) Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004; therefore, Obama was a US senator for the entire second term of George W. Bush’s presidency. (2) neither Democrats nor Republicans controlled the Senate after the 2006 election; Republicans and Democrats each held 49 seats. Two seats were held by Independents. And Joseph Lieberman — a Democrat from 1988 until the 2006 election, and the Democratic nominee for vice president in 2000 — held one of the two Independent seats. (3) also, after the 2006 election, Democrats controlled the House of Representatives, where all bills originate, where taxes are levied, and where money is allocated. Sirota also neglects to mention the Democrat’s roll in the mortgage crisis, the crisis blamed for bringing the entire economy down. While Obama was accepting campaign donations from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Barney Frank was excoriating critics of those institutions, the institutions backing the no-money-down, no-risk mortgages being issued by the very banks he is now vilifying. Enough history? OK, let me explain my take on the tea party phenomenon.
In short, the tea party phenomenon is a spontaneous rejection by a vast number of Americans to what is happening in Washington DC. I suspect I’m like many participants in this phenomenon: I have never been politically active, but I recognize a single, undeniable fact: the fundamental nature of this country is under threat. The Obama Administration and this Congress have brought things to a head, but make no mistake, the Republicans are equally to blame for the state of affairs. Obama’s rhetoric does not mesmerize us, we see him for the socialist that he is. The Democrats have shown themselves to be untrustworthy stewards of our Constitution, our freedoms and liberties, and our capitalist system, a system that has raised more people from poverty than any other economic system in history. We reject socialism, not because we are ignorant of it, but because we know it for what it is — a false utopia. Obama and Congress can veil socialism behind beautiful, enticing rhetoric, but we are not fooled. Republicans have proven themselves to be untrustworthy stewards as well, but that fight is for another day. The immediate threat is from this administration and this Congress.
I’ve been to only one Tea Party event, the one at the Capitol Building in St. Paul Minnesota. And the vast majority of people I met there, and many others I’ve met online, are not the radicals our opponents would like us to be, the radicals our opponents claim that we are. You are likely to find radicals among us because this movement has drawn many thousands of people. The radicals do not speak for me; they don’t speak for any of the people in this movement that I’ve met.
I strongly suspect there are many things that you (Alan) and I disagree on. And I’m certain there are many things that the many thousands of other people who have found common cause in the tea party movement and I would disagree on — it cannot be otherwise, for we are all individuals with our own worldviews that have been shaped by our direct experience of life.
Seek your own truth, Alan.
With respect,
Wayne
Here is the response I’ve received from Oberstar – a letter telling me that he’s got all of the answers, and my health care will be great under Obamaplan. He also says he won’t be meeting with many of us to discuss his ideas:
Dear Ms.___________ :
I appreciate your sharing with me your thoughts regarding health insurance reform legislation.
Currently, there are 46 million Americans without health insurance and health care costs are spiraling out of control. In this climate, it is clear that something must be done to reform the health care status quo.
For over two years, Congress has been laying the groundwork for health care reform. Since February 2007, House committees have held over 80 bipartisan hearings to thoroughly explore this complex issue. On July 14, 2009, the chairmen of the three committees with jurisdiction over health policy in the House of Representatives introduced America’s Affordable Health Choices Act (H.R. 3200), comprehensive health insurance reform legislation. On July 17, both the Education and Labor Committee and the Ways and Means Committee approved H.R. 3200, followed by the Energy and Commerce Committee on July 31. Before the House of Representatives votes on health care reform legislation, the three House committees will work to reconcile their versions in order to produce a unified bill. You can view more information at these links:
. House Education and Labor Committee: http://edlabor.house.gov/newsroom/2009/07/house-democrats-expose-campaig.shtml#more
. House Energy and Commerce Committee: http://energycommerce.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1687&catid=156&Itemid=55
. House Ways and Means Committee: http://waysandmeans.house.gov/MoreInfo.asp?section=52
As health insurance reform directly touches every American, it is imperative that we get this right. Because of the strong interest in health care legislation, I want to make sure that every constituent has the opportunity to share his or her views with me. Given the size of my district and my inability to hold enough public meetings to satisfy the demand, I believe the best way for constituents to provide essential input on health care is to write directly to me. I encourage you to respond to my invitation to go to my website (http://www.oberstar.house.gov/) and select the health care icon on the right hand side of the page where I provide an opportunity for you to share your comments, concerns and insights regarding health insurance reform legislation.
You can read the text of H.R. 3200, like I have, by utilizing the Library of Congress’s legislative information website: http://thomas.loc.gov/. Simply type “H.R. 3200″ into the search box, select bill number and click “search.” This will pull up the legislative history of H.R. 3200 and also allow you to access the text of the legislation.
I want to be clear that H.R. 3200 has undergone many changes since it was introduced in July, and many of the concerns regarding this important legislation have been addressed, including amendments to prevent the use of “comparative effectiveness” research methodologies as a basis for denial of benefits and an amendment that excludes illegal immigrants from receiving any benefits in the legislation. It is also very likely that additional changes will be made before the House of Representatives votes on this legislation in September. This year, I have met with many constituents in Minnesota and Washington regarding health care reform, and I recently participated in a 5-hour presentation of the health care legislation where we reviewed the legislation in its entirety.
It is important to note that H.R. 3200 will increase choice among an array of private and public insurance options. Most importantly, if you like the insurance that you have, you can keep it. Opponents of health care reform are spreading a number of myths, among them that health reform means fewer choices and that individuals will be forced out of their current plans. If an individual likes his or her current plan, he or she will be able to keep it. Consistent with President Obama’s goals, the legislation builds on what works in the current health care system by strengthening employer-provided care, while fixing what is broken with it. The legislation ensures that individuals will not have to worry about being denied insurance based on a pre-existing condition, or being without coverage if their employers drops coverage, if they lose their job, or if they change employers.
H.R. 3200 is budget-neutral and is financed by achieving significant efficiencies and savings in Medicare and Medicaid and through a surcharge on the wealthiest 1.2 percent of Americans. The legislation ensures that middle-class Americans will see no tax increases. Furthermore, the Joint Committee on Taxation has estimated that only 4.1 percent of all small business owners would be affected by the health care surcharge.
There has been much misinformation surrounding the advance care planning and end of life care consultation provision in H.R. 3200. Claims by some groups that advance care planning consultations include “euthanasia” and are “mandatory every five years” and would be required to “recommend a method for death” are blatantly false. This provision would provide coverage under Medicare for people to talk to their doctor about their care preferences at the end of life. This would not only ensure that patient wishes are known and respected, it would ensure that families are not confronted with these difficult decisions until emergency situations arise, leaving them unprepared because they do not know their loved ones’ preferences. I have personal experience with this issue: after a heroic eight-year fight with breast cancer, my wife, Jo, died of this devastating disease. I am offended by this misinformation campaign and fully believe that these deeply personal decisions do not need to happen in times of crisis.
Another myth is that members of Congress get free or low-cost, high quality health care plans. This is false. As a member of Congress, I pay the same premiums, get the same benefits, and get the same choices as other federal employees, and there are many Americans that have better health benefits in the private sector.
There will continue to be much discussion and debate as we work to build consensus on this critical issue. I am hopeful that opponents of health care reform will offer input on this issue as opposed to circulating myths. At present, I believe that the House health insurance reform bill needs to be improved to ensure that Minnesota health care providers are not adversely impacted by the creation of a public plan option; I believe that additional improvements should be added to improve rural health care, and it is imperative that the legislation not authorize the use of taxpayer dollars to cover abortion. I plan to spend significant time in August evaluating the input that I receive from constituents; reviewing the legislative changes that have been made and making recommendations for further improvement.
With best wishes.
Sincerely,
James L. Oberstar, M.C.
JLO/jjr
Carrie, we had eight people at “Overspenders” office last week. His office staff started yelling and swearing at one of the retired guys in the conference room and I had to get both of them to settle down. But Kenny, the “office staff” only spews talking points and info that is fed to him through D.C., it is humorous. We did work him over quite well and some common ground was found… fraud in medicare and billing processes… that was about all tho’. The numbers and other “stats” he tried to cram down us were not factual. Lets keep up the pressure… and turn it up a notch as the summer wears on… if we start heckling these tyrants in the grocery stores and Fleet Farm, maybe they will… quit? Or, maybe not… I am not opposed to tarring and feathering
Thank you for sharing that!
They are getting the same from Tim Walz. They asked him 20 specific questions and they repeatedly get stonewalled. Then his office comes back with “they are too bias”. Well now they are in the business of telling us how to formulate our questions? Hmmmmm… I have an idea? Answer the question! Cowards!
Amy Klobuchars voice mail is full (Mpls) and DC says to check the papers, TV, and radio stations… I said “no, I will call back, when will be a good time?” with a whine and a whimper… Greg said “I don’t know her schedule, I just answer the phones”
No Town Halls being publicized.
North Branch, Minnesota September Tea Party Picnic scheduled for Sunday September 20th @ 12:00 Noon to 4:00 PM in Central Park, Main street, downtown North Branch. Serving Coney Island Chili Dogs, Soda’s etc. Bring along all who want to RENEW, not REMAKE! the Constitution of this Republic the United States of America. Headline speaker- Sue Jeffers, then Patroits its another open mic in North Branch, come one come all.
Contact: Peter Schaps- 612-875-2777 “Old North Church” Tea Party, Common Sense Conservatives of Chisago County
I would think a way of getting our message to the govt. should include opportunities at the st fair. Is there a way to tweet others who may be at the fair to go to a specific booth when visits from representatives happen. I’ve never participated in a twitter but would be willing to learn for this
Terry,
What a great idea!
We have talked about having groups of people be at every live broadcast there is, or at least the ones that count.
What a wonderful impact that would have!
Hello!
For those of us from around the nation who cannot make to to DC on Sept. 12, what do you suggest? Please consider the following:
-organizing protests at Federal government offices; major intersections in our towns and cities
-phoning our U.S. Senators and House reps. all day
-leaving work at a specific hour that day (lunch) and meeting up with like-minded folks for as much time as one can spare at a gvt. office, major intersection, etc.
-Howard Beale: go to your window, open it up and yell “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!”
-other?
-all of the above!
What would be the most effective use of our time that day?
Thank you
Might I suggest spending an hour to go promote tea party sites on the internet using Digg.com, Mixx.com, stumbleupon.com, delicious.com, reddit.com, propeller.com, etc.
Or go to lunch and speak to people you would not normally converse with.
We need to win converts…. less preaching to the choir….
those were my thoughts.
Respectfully,
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot
Concerning tea parties and Obama birth cert. and the dismiss of court actions toward Obama birth records and other records of interest. The tea parties might consider tea parting around the senators and congressman and judges officess and other important, places, stand by there doors and do your thing and other locations to get there attention. Bugging them will do some thinking and make it loud and clear that apposed to court hearing pertaining to investagation of the following. This might get them to think on what they are doing to this country unjustice. The choice is up to the tea parties. Give it some thought.
Robert –
I respect your freedom to question Obama’s birthplace; i.e. if Obama was not born in the United States then he is not eligible to become president. But make no mistake — this is a dead issue, an issue that must be left to die on the vine. The election is over, and Obama is our president. What’s done is done, and anyone who continues to question Obama’s birthplace will rightly be marginalized, consigned to the fringes of responsible political debate. To take up that cause is to invite ridicule and to discredit yourself and whatever group with which you are associated. The tea party movement must remain focused on its fight for capitalism, for free trade, for common sense regulation, and against socialism and the ever-expanding powers of the federal government. The surest way for the tea party movement to make itself irrelevant is to embrace the conspiracy theorists who question Obama’s birthplace and his eligibility to be president of the United States. The tea party movement can make sober, reasoned arguments on behalf of the cause of freedom and liberty, or it can join the conspiracy theorists — it cannot do both.
With respect,
Wayne
Dist. 7 rep. Collin Peterson says: I don’t talk to my constituents because they’re nuts.
Read the article at: http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/27/peterson-i-dont-talk-to-my-constituents-because-theyre-nuts/comment-page-1/#comments
Lets get this parasite out of office NOW!!! I’ll show him just how bitter and clinging I am!!!
Well, that’s better than Jim Overspender in the 8th district, he listens to none of us… whether we are nuts or not… but since he lives in Maryland, he has no worries about meeting up with us in Fleet Farm or Cub and having to face reality. If I can find jes’ a bit of support, I will parade around the iron range, Brainerd lakes area and all points in between to unseat the lieing, stealing, deceiving b*stard!
There were only 5 of us that showed up at Peterson’s office in Red Lake Falls, his staff was nice and took notes over our concerns and we left letters of protest also. His staff also gave us the press release he has written up to supposedly defend his voting ‘yes’ on cap and tax, which she gave us each a copy.
My daughter stood on Hwy 32 with her sign and received many thumbs up and honks, her sign read: Keep Government out of healthcare.
There is a Tea Party in East Grand Forks today at 3pm if anyone is in the area.
RULES FOR TEA PARTY RADICALS
ELECTION JUDGES – For the moment, we are intent upon bringing political change through lawful political discourse. But what if they elections are dishonest?
Proof of voter fraud in the USA – from the horse’s mouth http://bit.ly/DZYkT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq9WVuKGwOM
MAY I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO APPLY NOW TO BE ELECTION JUDGES SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO WIN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF AMERICA, THE POWERS THAT BE CANNOT SUBVERT OUR HARD WORK AND STEAL THE ELECTION. BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY!
Respectfully,
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot
FOR A EXPLANATION OF WHAT RULES FOR TEA PARTY RADICALS MEANS PLEASE GO HERE –
http://www.reteaparty.com/groups/rules-for-tea-party-radicals
We had 10 of us out there in front of Keith Ellison’s office (The Urban League Building) Penn and Plymouth in North Minneapolis. Thanks to everyone who made it out…
Five at the office of Jim Overspender in Brainerd…. office staff arrived at 11:30 AM, we did actually get invited in tho’… Tony Bauer got a bit worked up… but stayed on task. The rest of us jes’ kept hitting the guy with big gov’t crap. Its fun to be abrasive from time to time.
Wildman
Both Bemidji and Thief River falls had Tea Parties, Bemidji twice both had around 350 people, TRF smaller at around 100 but it all counts.
There is another Tea Party in East Grand Forks,MN Sunday 3pm at the park.
Anybody planning a tea party on Sept. 17th or 18th?? Is one of those days constitution day?? Not real sure I have what it takes to put on all the Ben Franklin garb today… but it is cool enough here in Brainerd, for the powdered wig… love that global warming…
The Thief River Falls Area Tea Party Patriots are planning a tea party in September. September 17th is Constitution Day, Wildman. I would rather hold it on a Saturday, my co-planner wants Thursday evening – businesses are open late on Thursdays. We’ve already tried both days and didn’t seem to draw any better numbers. What to do? What to do…but we ARE planning to hold one. No way am I giving up.
Ora, are you planning to go to EGFs?
Barb C.
I will be in Mankato @ Tim Walz. It is time to stop this aggrevation and nonsense. If the Democrats think they can fool us they are wrong, it is making us stronger to fight the fight and we will not give in.
Barb
Nancy Losier Good point!!!!!!!
Everyone should tune in to Glenn beck… today and this whole week and next week… IM not even kidding … on fox news at 4 pm central… He’s hitting the nail on the head over and over and over again!
Listed a “tea party” at Jim Overspenders office in Brainerd on the national site… it didn’t show up… maybe it will get listed on Saturday… who’s running that thing anyway… Al Gore? With the blazing speed of a turtle…
WE THE PEOPLE demand US Reps & Senators relocate to State Capitals =>75% of time in office & Telecommute http://bringhomethepoliticians.com
Don,
I like the concept you have, but how would committee times work? At least your way, they would be spending less and not passing as much bad law, thereby SAVING taxpayer dollars! Good idea. I’m for it!
Sue
I’m in N.Ky. and a Tea Party Patriot here. We are associated with the Cincinnati Tea Party. I have a brother in Blain, Mn. Do you have an active group near there? near there?
Thanks,
Gordon Loomis
Gordy, even tho’ St Paul is a bit of a leftist town, there are tea party’ers in the area. They had a very successful tea party at the capitol recently. You could try sending Toni an e-mail directly and see what she has to say…
Richard Burton
Brainerd
Hi Gordon…
Hey, they are posted on here; hope you have found his site!!
Karen
Hello Sue Bican:
This is not my idea…
This is someone else’s idea that i liked and have been promoting.
Your best answers will come from them.
The Cynical Patriot
Tea Partiers keep on it! We cannot be disuaded my mainstream media and our representatives who are hoping we will “fizzle” out. This country is too important and we have to take it back by moving on. Making sure that 2010 takes out the infection (self-serving congressmembers) and replacing it with a sound sense making body.! I’m keeping in touch and attending whatever, wherever to keep this going.
Well, are we ready to file for office ourselves? I am ready to go after Jim Overspender in the 8th district… are any of you people ready to put your life in limbo to go to D.C. and clean out the sewer? This is where the entire thing has gone wrong, we all jes’ want to “live our lives” and be left alone… but look at what you get for “representation”!!?? When the house is in “session” it looks like the bar scene from the first Star Wars movie! Except for the fact that the space aliens are better looking… there is not much noticeable difference. The senate and the house only need to be in “session” for a few days in the spring and a few days in the fall, most of the monkey business can be done from home with the technology we now have. And the first few days should be spent abolishing most laws, treaties, bailouts that have been passed in the last 20 years, and the next day eliminate all ties to the U.N. and help them pack up that building in New York and ship it all to France!
(This isn’t about you, Wildman, but there are others…) HEY, how about those who skipped voting because they didn’t like Norm Coleman for Minnesota’s Senator? I know people who didn’t vote for any one in that slot. To me this is disgusting! Get your message out before the SELECTION and ENDORSEMENT of some candidate you don’t like, but when they have been given the approval of the majority of our party, you should VOTE for them, because exactly what happened to us, giving us Al FRANKEN STEIN as our Senator, is the end result of such STUPID moves. Who is counting whether you voted or not? Obviously a LOT of people who spent hours and hours trying to get the REAL count done accurately, and we still lost in the courts. All because you were “standing on principle” and didn’t like the RINO that was running. WHY now, I ask?? Coleman won the first time he ran, so some Republicans must have voted for him then. Why, when he was running against a nut-case like Franken, did you abandon your right to vote and the Republican party?? I question the sanity of anyone who did that. YOU ARE A LOSER IF YOU DIDN’T USE YOUR VOTE AGAINST FRANKEN!
Now we are going to learn something the hard way. Won’t this be fun for 6 years? Wake up Minnesota Republicans! If you don’t vote, what right have you to complain about Franken? Please don’t do so in my hearing. Thanks!
Hey everyone – I need your help!!!!
I am working on the Campaign for an American Solution. Feel free to check out our web site too: http://www.americanhealthsolution.org. We are working in MN to organize people that oppose any government-run health care reform. We are engaging individuals, small business owners, and pretty much anyone that is willing to voice their opposition to the current health care reform that is being discussed.
I noticed you guys are working on the Cap and Trade issue, but I am asking for help in organizing supportive groups, like the tea party group, to our plight as well. I need as much help as possible in making a difference and am willing to do all the leg work necessary. The best way people can help our efforts on this project would be in the following ways:
1.) Write a quick letter and email (use the draft language below – either revised or verbatim). Please try and do both an email and letter to all three targets (Klobuchar, Franken and Rep. Peterson) and any other congressional member!
2.) Place a quick phone call to the three congressional targets (Klobuchar, Franken and Rep. Peterson) and any other relaying the message that “We need health care reform, but it shouldn’t include a government-run option.”
3.) Once you have completed the above, please let me know as I’m trying to measure how many times each member is hearing our message. Simply email americansolutionmn@gmail.com
4.) Also, if you are willing to submit a letter to the editor of a local publication, please let me know
Let me know if there are any upcoming events as well.
I hope you can help, and I would appreciate talking in further detail. Either email or call me at (612) 548-8403.
Basic message:
“In this year along the federal government has taken control of major banks, taken a stake in the restructuring of General Motors and Ford, and is setting salary caps on business executives. Now Congress and the President have shifted their focus to health care. I agree that health care reform is necessary. I also agree that something should be done about the spiraling costs of health care reform. However, I do not believe it is a good time for the government to start offering health care policies.
How can the federal government reform 1/6th of the nation’s economy when it cannot control the abuses that occur within Medicare and Medicaid? I understand that the government had to make tough choices when it came to preventing further economic decline. But how much government intervention must occur before it is too much? There must be a line.
Please oppose a public option in a health care reform package. There must be a distinction between private businesses and government policy.”
Thanks for the help.
Mike
I have written letters to both Klobachar and Peterson(Collin) Didn’t waste my time on Franken, hes a zero. Also have called both and emailed NUMEROUS times. Looks to me like they have made up their minds. Klobachar has emailed back and blah,blah,blah. Haven’t heard from Peterson yet. I was to his office in Willmar and I was the only one to show up. Was discouraged about that but went in anyway by myself(I am not a seasoned protestor). Was dealt with courteously by a guy. However, when I called his office to see when he was going to have a town hall meeting, the lady there was abrupt and all but got hung up on. I almost called her back to tell her,you work for Collin, and he works for me. I would like a little more respect please. (but I didn’t)
WHAT HAPPENED AT THE CAPITOL ON JULY 4TH? WE WERE THERE WHEN IN STARTED TO POUR DOWN. WE HAD TO LEAVE FOR ANOTHER FUNCTION.
I AM WRITING TO LEGISLATORS MORE NOW THAN I EVER HAVE.
Have you ever watched our own legislature in the last few nights of session? It is the most maddening thing to behold… that is a bunch of spoiled babies that we stuck Tim Pawlenty with…shame on us! I don’t know how he kept his cool… I would have lost it! Those “people” argued for hours about the listing of rice meal on dog food labels! Talk about time to abolish the gov’t!!!
Wildman
Instead of reacting to what the liberals do, such as the very important effort to prevent the cap & trade bill from being passed, isn’t time to put the liberals on defense?
Are there any shirts or buttons yet?
I plan to attend the St. Paul Tea Party and start my support.
Thanks
I have received some messages on Facebook from people complaining about my idea to make the 4th of July Tea Party a celebration. Your damn right I want to celebrate our country’s birth, the birth of the idea of an independence and self-government! If ever there was an idea and occasion to celebrate I can think of nothing more worthy of celebration than our country’s birth and our independence. The idea that a group of patriots are getting together to celebrate freedom is the best way to protest against the attacks on our on freedom. For if we do not celebrate, or pay tribute to, the Declaration of Independence then it is already lost and we are no longer free.
Did you receive some whining about the party date or did they want to “crank it up”? And without swift and decisive action… all is lost…but maybe you have not stared reality in the face yet… jes’ askin’…
Wildman
I talked to Collin Peterson Saturday. We had a tea party float in the Granite Falls parade and he was there. Before the parade started, one of our riders, Craig Bishop, spied him so Craig and I talked to him. I asked him why he sold us out and he became very defensive; his excuses were so feeble, so scripted — sickening. I asked him why he would vote yes when we had told him to vote no; the phone calls and emails were 20 to 1 against cap & trade. I asked him how he could do something that will increase energy/fuel prices, thus food, clothing, etc. I was very polite, but stern. His companions didn’t much care for my questioning so it was suddenly time to get in the car to get into the parade route. Well, I’ve written a letter to the editor to explain cap & tax as well as telling everyone here that Collin voted for it. I told him earlier that if he voted yes I would campaign against him. I don’t make idle threats.
It is correct that Collin had the squeeze put on him and his Ag. position was threatened. But this is what you get with absolute power… it corrupts. I could really get in trouble for this… but I am past the point of caring… maybe its time these political hacks are told to stay in DC, cuz’ at home, it’s not safe for them to be out in public. Ask them if they know what revolution looks like up close. We must all understand that the “change” this country needs can no longer be made through the voting booth due to all the little piglets sucking off the pig… they will only vote for the pig. Wish I was tea party-ing with the rest of you, I am firing a fireworks show Friday and Saturday, Randall MN & Maddens at Gull Lake. Having organized and lead a tea party, I saw the thirst for more tea party’s and a quiet revolution.
Wish you all the best on the 4th!
Wildman
I never believed in term limits, but I do now.
I have always believed in term limits – with a twist. For MN house, two consecutive terms only, but after a term break, run again. If you were that popular with the people, you’d win the election and it would break the endless cronyism.
4 year MN congressional terms and 6 years for senate is ludicrous. Something should have changed a long time ago.
Barb
Wildman,
Peterson was on 1100AM with Scott Hennen last Thursday morning. I didn’t get to listen to the entire program, but I heard him say there was no arm twisting or back door deals for his yes vote. (Proof of that is in the same category as someone’s birth certificate!) While admitting his office phone lines were melting, with most in opposition to C&T, he felt his constituents didn’t know enough about the issue. After reading a June 6th report, he changed his vote from a no to a yes. I didn’t catch where that report came from or who wrote it.
He claims the title ‘Representative’, yet he votes against his constituency. We’re planning to have a car in the Pennington Co. fair parade on Thursday July 17th, with a sign that reads, “Collin Peterson sold us out on Cap and Trade!”
Barb
Collin Peterson is my representative in the 7th Dist. It is my understanding that Speaker of the House Pelosi promised trade-offs regarding Agriculture, the committee of which Peterson is chairman.
Peterson is also the congressman who nominated her as Speaker.
He calls himself a Blue-Dog Democrat. He really is a Lap-Dog Democrat.
Barb
Here are the republicans who voted yes on cap and trade: Bono Mack (CA) 202-225-5330, Castle (DE) 4165, Kirk (IL) 4835, Lance (NJ) 5361, Lobiondo (NJ) 6572, McHugh (NY) 4611, Reichart (WA) 7761, Chris Smith (NJ) 3765. Also, Collin Peterson, Democrat MN CD7 voted yes. His number is 202-225-2165. They need to know that they are weasles for ignoring us.
Thanks for the list. I will be writing all of these weasles. How could anyone calling themselves a republican vote for this legislation. I just can’t believe it.
We’ve got another rolling tea party coming up. This one is Saturday June 27th in Granite Falls. Anyone interested in riding on the float, go to the 9th Avenue staging area and look for Unit 107. I’ll check back for any interest.
We’re having a rolling tea party in Montevideo June 21st. We are turning our semi & drop deck trailer into a float for our parade that day. If anyone would like to join us, meet at the Montevideo water tower by noon that day. Bring your signs and flags and have fun!
I found an interesting piece of trivia while reading the book “Samuel Adams” a biography of Mr. Adams. The tax on tea that was the cause for the original Boston Tea Party became law to help the East India Tea Company. The East India Tea Company, a monopoly that was going broke because of smuggling, needed a BAILOUT!
In looking for “What makes America Great” stuff I figured Ronald Reagan would be a good place to start. I couldn’t believe it when I found this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1777069922535499977
We need optimism on this thing. Just look at how California repudiated the tax and spend legislature in the recent special election! We’ve got tough times ahead yes, but we are planting the seeds of prosperity and freedom if we stay diligent. I’ve got an idea- we need to think long term, we need to have organized educational seminars, camps, and the like to teach kids the RIGHT way. Kids participate in sports and religious education, why not create an organization that teaches and fosters the American way as our forefathers intended?
Why say ye?
AAAAARRRRGGGHHHH. I am frustrated with the state of our nation, and numb with fear for the future. I wil be there showing my support, but I am sorry to say that I don’t believe my presence or any number of realistic supporters can fix the mess we are in. I hate to doom and gloom people, but there seems to be no light at the end of this tunnel.
D. Russ, I hear ya… have felt for many years that we will be unable to fix this through the voting booth. I fear our only way out is the same way we did starting in1773. Kinda doubt people have the stomach for it tho’… the current administration is banking on it. They know we are now a country of sheep and for the most part will do what “the man” tells them to. Socialism here we come…
Hi Russel, I do belive there will be light at the end of the tunnel, the day the good lord comes and saves us from this
gloom and doom…the end is near Amen..Sonia
Russel,
Keep the faith. We are the only ones that can make change. It might be a tough battle, but we shall overcome. I have never seen such out pouring over this mess. My wife and I will be at the tea party in St. Cloud.
Terry
Do the elected officials forget the Constitution: “We the people”. That it is the people like us that will “… preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
To our elected here is the word that describes what you have done to our great country and its great people. Treason: the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.
count me in
We need another Tea Party for the 4th of July. We should boycott all others and show the real support for our independence. Otherwise it is a wasted holiday that means nothing. How can ppl that don’t support freedom and liberty celebrate a holiday that is only there cause others laid their life for it. Mn needs to be 20,000+ strong. We need to spill the streets. You should see seas of ppl to the church seen from the capital. Many feel the same way as us but are too shy to make a move. We must show them all it is worth it. We have to make a difference. It is not just our job to work. It is also our country. WE have to see it stay on target. Freedom is not free. Too many generations have said it was our right and sat at home watching tv, living the dream. The whole while others started pulling strings for their goals. Now we have to fight for all of those generations and those to come.
We need to be talking to everyone. We need to know our neighbors. We need to know ours streets again. Don’t forget our morals, our prides, our families, our friends. WE have to be different than those that repeat slogans. We must be the slogan! No yes men here. We are the ones that make this country tick.
PLEASE GO VOTE ON THIS POLL
The Fairmont Sentinel Newspaper of Fairmont, MN is conducting an online poll. The question is: What did you think of the Tea Parties? Great expression of individual liberty No big deal Right-wing nut parties
Here are the results thus far:
Great expression of individual liberty 53%
No big deal 27%
Right-wing nut parties 20%
http://fairmontsentinel.com/
The silent majority is starting to wake up!! However, any movement that spawns from this will be fruitless unless we couple it with a push for congressional term limits.
Short of a “Separation of Economics and State”, it’s the best and only solution.
http://www.vote4theotherguy.com/
Tim Jerhoff
South Saint Paul, MN
I agree that Term Limits are the only responsible way to control our congress. The only Difference in the Republicans and the Democrats is speed not direction. Both parties are moving toward socialism. We have an increasing number of people feeding at the government trouph. We are dangerously close to having more people feeding than supplying the feed.
Everyone try to bring their friends and family to the July 4th Tea Party. Lets make the crowd so large and load they can’t dismiss us.
Randy Liebo
Can we get Glenn Beck to come speak on May 2?!? How awesome would that be!
In light of the negative media coverage (that we all knew was coming) I would just like to say, the harder they try to cover the flame, the hotter it burns!!! Lets keep it going!!
I have rarely felt more pride in my country then when it was my privilege to be a small part of the great Tea Party in St. Paul!
“Men fight for freedom, then they begin to accumulate laws to take it away from themselves.”
It is time to start to get rid of the laws that take away our freedom.
Here-here for getting rid of some laws… those people know no end… I am with you all the way on that one!
Me too! Thank you Bryan!
I say congratulations to all that turned out for these rallies! It amazed me at the tone of the rally in St. Paul. The crowd was intense with the statement they were there to convey, but peaceful and polite and supportive of each other. At the end of the rally there wasn’t as much as a piece of paper left behind. The respect for each other and for the property at the Capital was awesome. Compare that to the left wing radicals that were at the RNC who destoyed property , intimidated people, with their threats, and required hundreds of police to try to keep the peace.
Thats the difference between conservative people and left wing radicals. Yet we are the ones, along with our brave veterans that are being called possible terrorists!……………..Our leaders in Washington are frightened of this movement. THAT is what the truth is. God bless all those who could attend and all those who wish they could have.
I was there yesterday, also as a first-time political rally attendee. Gray-haired granny age to boot.
Exciting! Fun! Uplifting! Inspiring!
My comment on boycotts: consumer boycotts are one thing any of us can do. I’d like to see us develop lists of businesses who support the MSM and others who don’t so I can use my buying power to reward the businesses that support the American taxpayer and sensible spending.
But for those who want to boycott CNN- boycott CNN all day BUT tune in for Lou Dobbs at 6:00 p.m.! Programs like Lou Dobbs need our support!
I am so proud of all of us for being so kind and respectful and friendly. We had a great turnout and it was so much fun to meet so many people. I even saw the owner of where I work and some fellow co workers. Dont give up hope and dont give up future attendance! this is just the begining of what is to come.
Hope to see you all again at the Tax rally on May 2nd!
Brainerd had about 400. It was an open mike forum with no lack of inspired speakers.
Thank you for organizing a positive, fun and memorable event! I am grateful for the opportunity to participate for the first time with like-minded people who could smile through their discontent. I’m excited for May 2 and July 4 and other ways to get involved and make a difference for the better of our great country and people.
Thanks again for all the hard work that went into this.
This was my first time I have attended such a rally. Usually I am too busy with my job and my family. I am really glad i was a part of this. It was so awesome to see so many people support this cause. I sincerely hope this is just the beginning.
We are winning. This silent conservative MAJORITY is waking up. Be scurred!!! Be very afraid. You are gonna lose your grant money LIBERALS!!!!!! Be scurrred!!!!! The Acorn is dropped and the squirrels are gonna eat your nut!!!!
Now boycott advertisers on MSM stations. Start with Target Corp., who just a few years ago dropped the Salvation Army just before Christmas, instead of just after Christmas. This was done in cruelty and evil. I know this Corporation because it is headquartered here in Liberal Minnesota. They are struggling financially. We could take them down.
Also:
Trop 50 by Tropicana
Tracellers insurance
Snuggle Fabric Softener
Listerene
Macy’s
Cash4gold.com
National Diabetic Pharmacies
Kellogs Special K
Petsmart
Act Total Care mouthwash
Imodium
CareOne credit counseling services (oh yeah these are only for liberal losers)
Becker Furniture
612-L-A-W-Y-E-R-S (OH YEAH THESE ARE ONLY FOR LIBERALS FAKE SLIP AND FALL CASES)
Well off to work to pay liberal mortgages at work
My family and I were there as well. We are small business owners with 2 small children. It was awesome!! My kids had so much fun. I can’t wait until the tax rally!
I was at the tea party,what a great turnout.
I just watched the news and seen how our sick media
is protraying the people of this country that dare to speak out.
We can speak truth to corrupt power .how…hit them where
it hurts..BOYCOTT EVERY ITEM THAT IS ADVERTIZED ON THE
NEWS CHANNELS EVERYONE OF THEM………SEND PHONE CALLS
EMAILS.LETTERS TO EVERY PRODUCT MARKETING DEPT…
THIER MONEY IS SUPPORTING THESE STATIONS AND OURS
IS SUPPORTING THEM…..THE MEDIA MY IS RUN ON MONEY
OUR MONEY IF WE DONT BUY COMPANIES DONT SPEND.
I was at the rally tonight and thought it went great. Watched all the news channels locally and there was very little coverage, as expected. People need to wakt up and make these news medias cover whats important or I think they should loose there licence to brodcast beacuse they are abusing the power they have over the people with giving either faulse info or not reporting on what really matters.
It was SO much fun – that’s for organizing such an AWESOME event.
Can’t wait till May 2nd!!!
I came and stayed for about an hour and a half. I would have stayed for the whole thing but my head (blonde hair, fair skin, no not bald) was starting to burn pretty good already. I didn’t realize there wouldn’t be much shade. I watched as the crowd grew. I’m real proud of you guys for being there. Hope the rest of the party went off without a hitch. I will make plans to stay longer the next time now that I know where I can park without getting towed away. I think maybe next time I’ll bring friends and be more prepared not to burn.
Take 94 E to St. Paul, but don’t use any of the roads constructed with taxpayer dollars and if some of those crazy liberals hassle you, don’t call a cop. They’re taking your tax money to pay for those guys! These tea parties are so cool! Maybe we can really stop that madman Barack Obama from his fiendish plan to return the top marginal tax rate to the level it was at under Ronald Reagan! Taxes suck! Wooooo!
I plan to be there. This taxing has to stop!!
I plan to be there! This taxing has to stop!!!
“Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men’s protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to it’s owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon and account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it bounces, marked: ‘ACCOUNT CLOSED.’
Words of Ayn Rand written 50 years ago in ATLAS SHRUGGED
I have been trying to warn freinds and relatives about this day all of my adult life. Almost no one would listen. Now it is probably too late. But what the hell, let’s try it again.
Instead of tea bags, I am bringing my fair tax book to send. That will send a message of “do this” rather than a message of “do something”. I want our goverment back, and taking this punishing tax code away from them forces them to talk to us otherthan talking around us. Sending the fair tax book shows more commitment to vote than a tea bag. fairtax.org or boortz.com or amazon.com for The Fairtax book.
Let’s do this.
We will be there and have emailed many, many friends and family. There is enough waste in our government to employee many folks that are now unemployed–why don’t they cut their salaries and provide jobs to others.
Finally! Something is happening to take America back! I’ll definitely be there!
I cannot wait. I’m here at work (I work in a hotel at the front desk…lots of standing around during the day), looking at the website. And I’m just getting really excited! But we need to keep focus. We cannot just focus of the stoges named P-Bo(president Obama), princess pelosi, and Reid. We need to take note that many are to blame in congress and the administrations, Obama, Bush, and Clinton. We need to control our life, not control put on our life. It is time, this is the building ground breaking ceremony nationwide of a great new american freedom. No longer can we just sit by and let Code Pink and MoveOn.org set the bar. No longer shall we be silent in the night. No longer afraid to say something to the outspoken liberals, whom wish to silence anyony who opposes them. We shall stand and reclaim this country. Lead it away from tryanny and oppresion. Away from the Solcialist curve. For today we make the claim, to renew this country in the shape our founders intended. For so many had fought and died on the feilds of Yorktown for. To have the Government away from your every living decision. To have the States be in control of their people. For choice and Liberty to live. For a man to have his pursuit of happiness. For I say God Bless the United States of America!
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
– Thomas Paine, (1737-1809), The Age of Reason, pt. 1, “The Author’s Profession of Faith” (1794), quoted from The Columbia Dictionary of Quotations
Should I bring my tea cup and saucer?
My Father, my wife, and I will be there. I may be bringing my Intern from work as well…
The style of writing is quite familiar . Did you write guest posts for other blogs?
Man o’ man! Count me in! Jeff Schmidt said everything I want to say, so, thank you, Jeff.
The federal government is getting WAY too powerful. How can one man with so little experience be ushered into office only to launch a full frontal assault on our liberties, our individuality, our national honor, our right and/or ability to fully defend ourselves (in our homes and abroad), bury us and future generations in mountains of debt, and not be thrown out of office when he represents only one-third to one-half of the country? What about those of us who think America is still the best country in the world and the engine of free enterprise and economies around the world? What about those of us who cherish our founding documents: The Declaration of INDEPENDENCE and our Constitution. Those of us who, if not Christian or Jew, at least respect the moral foundation that rests upon Judeo-Christian principles. Does President Obama think WE are the source of his troubles? It sure seems like it!
If the liberals succeed in squelching talk radio, they will then strip the de facto guts out of our Second Amendment rights through over-regulation or taxation of gun ownership and/or use (ammunition).
What in the hell is wrong with ‘those’ pepole (PBO/Pelosi/Frank/Napolitano/Emanuel)? Why do they want to destroy America???
Of course the dems are blaming Bush for the taxes when they are the ones who ae doing all of the taxing and ripping us off in the 30’s we did not have hardley any taxes and now look what thedems have added and keep spending and helping the crooks they work with , It is time we stop hiringmore people to goverment offices also in the the astates and counties and cities they keep adding more people that we have to support , all the ddems want to do is to control the people I am so DAMM glad some has started a tax revolt
It’s not the Dems vs the Repubs. It’s the Statists vs the individual. Important not to forget that. We’re all Americans. Some of us insist on liberty. Others would like us to do whatever it is they would like us too. It starts by taking control of our money and small actions. Utimately, they’ll move to control our children’s thoughts and daily actions, even more so, for their children.
Fight back now while we still can. Stop blaming the other party – whatever that might be. Blame the statists. They’re in both parties.
Marie,
I paid for your “stimulus check” and was not given a choice in the matter. I also paid for ACORN to mitigate my vote by providing an absentee ballot to a homeless person who used a local park bench as his address.
Additionally, I’m not “rich”; I don’t even make over $150K per year. But wait…big surprise…guess what??? No stimulus check for me.
So I ask you now Marie: What are you going to do to give back to the rest of us who paid for your stimulus check?
Answer: Nothing (like all parasites).
Who is John Galt!
See you at the Rally!!
We’ll be there:
http://intellectualtakeout.org/readtheblog/2009/04/14/its-tea-time/
I am all for protesting high taxes and bailouts, but I hope these rallies don’t turn into an Obama/Dem. bashing free-for-all. These rallys should be for All citizens who fed up with the way things are !! Remember, we all know who started these record deficits, George W. Bush, and we know what party he was from.
Dave:
You are correct. These deficits did start with President Bush and no -today should not be about bashing any party. But it should be about holding the current adminstration accountable so as to fix the problem rather than pointing fingers on past failed activities we can not change.
President Obama has spent more taxpayer money in his first 100 hundred days in office than the collective governments spent in the past 200 years. He’s not misguided because he’s a democrat – like Pres Bush, he’s just misguided.
We have a congress that doesn’t read the bills they voted on – except for the earmarks they added as amendments.
GM was told to prepare for bankruptcy by June 1. Chrysler was told to sell itself to Fiat. Yet both bailouts (sorry “bridge loans”) were forced down our throats because both companies were too big to fail.
Banks can’t return the TARP money to get out from under the government’s scrutiny. And we can’t drill for our own oil and gas in the US – we have to buy it from despots our President will bow down to (what does he think Airforce 1 runs on?)
And as a crippled VET, I am now blamed by DHS for being recruitable by “right wing extremist groups” (apparently I’m immune from being recruited by groups like ELF or ACORN). I’m such a threat – can’t hardly walk, can barely speak or use my left hand, but unlike the narco terrorists on our southern border, the pirates off Somalia, Iran or North Korea, I’m the government’s Homeland Security nemisis.
So no, this isn’t about what polical party you belong to, it isn’t about hate. It’s about being American – and doing what’s right, not what’s easy, politcally correct or fashionable.
JCS
On the eve of these historic rallies, Barack Obama’s DHS has
issued a “rightwing” threat assessment to warn of the “current
economic and political climate fueling resurgence in
radicalization and recruitment” for “rightwing extremism.”
Who are these extremists? According to the report, adherents
are primarily “hate-oriented” or “antigovernment” but also
include “individuals that are dedicated to a single issue,
such as opposition to abortion or immigration.”
I suppose that covers anyone who opposes Obama’s mad-dash to
socialism! This is a blatant effort by the Obama team to
radicalize their opponents. And they will get all the help
they need from the liberal media.
You can download Obamas DHS “assesment” at
http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?U=18114&RID=19013906
I trained at The United States Military Academy at West Point, Airborne and Ranger Schools. I picked up a weapon and stood my post for 10 years ’till a parachute accident returned me as a civilian.
I was taught that as a soldier my purpose (among others) was to allow all sides to have a fair debate of ideology and serve my elected officials. But as I said, I’m a civilian now. So it’s time for me to make my voice heard. I will be there on the 15th because …
1. I’m tired of the spending
2. I’m tired of the pork – from both parties.
3. I’m tired of the cuts in the military.
4. I’m tired of allowing the North Koreans to test their missles while we dismantle our missle defense.
5. Im tired of Iran’s president running us to ground.
6. I’m tired of our president bowing to the Saudi King.
7. I’m tired of Pres’l speechs like today claiming that we should pay the banks more money to free up credit but should not borrow any – we should save. Huh?
8. I’m tired of having my money being confiscated to give failed car companies “bridge loans” that the government has no intention of returning to me with interest; that they’re just going to spend anything they get back again. But than announcing that it’s going to force one of the recipients into bankruptcy anyway ’cause the government made a mistake. Ooops!
9. I’m tired of a president that scolds three auto executives for flying out to Washington on their corporate jets but sees no trouble in flying Marine 1, Airforce 1 and 2 (’cause Joe Biden wanted his own jet) plus two cargo C-17 jets of security and limos to Colorado for a Photo Op at a solar panel plant so he could sign his stimulus bill – an act he could have done in the oval office for free.
10. Finally – I’m tired of government accepting an automatic 8% pay raise every year while they rail against the likes of AIG and the rest. If they’re that concered, everyone of them including staffers and cabinet officials should work for $1 annually
11. Actually – I’m just tired.
JCS
I don’t understand this event. It’s to protest taxes, right? But Obama just cut taxes for 95% of Americans (all but the wealthy, who are getting a measley 3% boost).
So is this to say that it wasn’t enough of a cut?
I don’t get it. I got a huge tax rebate (stimulus check) this past year . . . my taxes haven’t been this low in a long, long time.
So what’s everybody so angry about?
WOW
Here is an idea I think is a good follow up to the Tea Parties on April 15th. Sunday April 19th is the 234th anniversary of the battle at Lexington and Concord, MA. Those are battles that started our Revolution. The “shot heard ’round the world” was fired by the Minutemen on that day. To commemorate this revolutionary event I suggest everyone fly the Gadsden “Don’t Tread On Me” flag in honor of the start of our American Revolution.
Good idea. But you realize that anyone flying this historic flag is now listed as a possible security risk by the MO Homeland security? They say we’re rebels and that has them focused on us. Times are getting more precarious by the day. I don’t think it was coincidence that the “vast right wing conspiracy” raises it’s public head with Homeland security just a day or two before the tea party.
I went out and bought mine when I first heard of the MO analysis of the flag. We’re making an impact – WITH A FLAG! – They’re scared of what middle America coming together could mean to the established order – even peacefully – scratch that, especially because it’s peaceful.
Time to make our impact. Time to let them know that we aren’t going to stand by and salute them as they sell our children and grandchildren into servitude to the state with their unlimited and totally irresponsible spending. Time to let them know that our founders set up a Constitution to help us protect ourselves when our leaders forget what it is that makes America great.
LIBERTY!
I salute Texas for their brave stand today!
DON’T TREAD ON ME!!!
I would like to cast a 2nd on the “Texas” motion…! We will be flying the Gadsden Wednesday night in Brainerd, bought it after 9/11, feel it means more now than it did then.
Before anyone goes to the Tea Party you should all view the new documentary, if you haven’t already, “The Obama Deception”. This almost two hour video explains how our new president is a puppet and the people really behind our government and that this has been going on for years. This is not a partisan video. It uncovers how both the left and right paradigm have been controlled for years and who is doing it. If you stop and think about it all this has had to have been going on for years. Slowly removing our rights, taking our jobs away, enormous amount of corruption in our different government agencies, housing bubble, changing our school systems, news media lying to us and moving us toward a one world government. All of this was by design. This doesn’t happen overnight this has been going on for years. Please don’t say conspiracy theory because it is not. This is all backed up by actual true documentation. There is a conspiracy and it is against all of us. It is run by the Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Relations and United Nations. These are banker and globalists. Books have been written about these organizations. They have websites. Their members have written books telling what their plans are for this world years ago. This is a conspiracy against us and it is evil. You need to know who your true enemies are so you can truly be effective. Since this video was made so much has been going on that another video “The Obama Deception 2″ will be released on July 4, 2009. Look for it. Also a documentary is in the works regarding Chemtrails. The Obama Deception video can be viewed in its entirety at the following websites:
Alex Jones at InfoWars – lower right-hand side of main web page under video
or
Google “The Obama Deception”. It’s entirety is on YouTube.
or
Wildman, I commend you for standing up for what you believe. However, Bryan has given you something thing to think about. Civil discourse is paramount at these rallies. Direct your anger toward policies, not individuals, then you will be much more effective. That said, barring outright racial discrimination and profanity, anyone will be allowed to express anything on their personal handmade signage at our rally. That is their right of free speech and I look forward to seeing their creativity
Where were you guys the past 8 years as the economy went in the gutter? Oh wait, that Party is allowed to piss away money and create large deficits and label it fiscal conservatism.
This is about being fiscally responsible no matter what party or administration. There were conservatives complaining about W. Things have gotten worse and we are being faced with spending and irresponsibility that dwarfs anything we have seen before.
This is a suggestion to help keep the rally positive. Whenever any of our elected or appointed government officals are mentioned from our president on down that are referred to be their proper titles. For example, President Obama, not Barak or BHO. Sen. Reid and Rep. Pelosi, not Harry & Nancy. Sec. Geithner not Tax Cheat Geithner.
Sorry dude…being nice has gotten us run over as of lately…and in revolution, nice will get you squashed. The anointed ones are very deceptive, crooked people only out to fatten their bank accounts by taking it from ours! This has been at least a 40 year stretch of incrementally taking from us hard working responsible individuals funds and freedoms…all the time they told us how nice it would be…! Its time some things created by LBJ and Jimmy Carter are left on the vine to die. Oh and by the way…its “the mother of the Italian mob” and “Whorehouse Harry”…and “Tiny Tim the tax teenager”… Don’t let my words of discourage your ambitious undertaking.
Lift high the torch!
Wildman, if we act like children calling those we oppose names we will treated as children. Adults show respect for people, even when they don’t deserve it. How you speak effects the opinion others have of you. Anger at and displeasure with our government can be shown without insulting those in our government. A civilised display of anger has more power to convince people than does an childish rant of name calling. BTW, my name is Bryan not “dude”.
I think we need to make sure about the parking situation.
I vote for personal responsibility!
Our station will be out there doing some interviews for the radio station.
We broadcast in the Maple Grove , MN area looking to spread our campaign for Liberty If you want to help please contact Cj for details @ libertyradioam1710@gmail.com
Thanks and we will see you out there.
I’d like to reiterate some thoughts, already posted, but which bear repeating as we near Wednesday’s rally. First, let’s refrain from making this a partisan rally. This rally is for all those who recognize socialism’s menacing shadow falling over us and are willing to fight for our liberty; it is for those who understand that the source of this socialistic threat is coming from our current president and Congress. This rally is for those who see this Congress is composed of socialistic Democrats and miscreant Republicans who have repeatedly betrayed the conservative principles they profess to believe.
Second, expect this rally to be infiltrated by people who oppose our views. They will likely want to make trouble, to make an ugly scene, drawing attention to themselves to attract media attention, and giving the media both reason and photographic evidence to discredit the rally by making a grotesque caricature of it. Please remember, our opponents would like nothing better than for us to conduct ourselves or to be portrayed as an angry mob of malcontents. Such a mob can be easily dismissed by our larger society. We are middle America, so really expressing our strong objection to the current executive branch and Congress (both parties).
Finally, We’re all justifiably angry as hell, but let’s articulate our discontent with a firm professionalism, so our message gets out clearly through the prism of whatever media shows up — a message that we see what is happening and refused to succumb. We are angry because we see through Obama’s carefully-constructed rhetoric and his deceptive reasoning to the intolerable specter of his vision for America: an America where “the rich” shall be made to pay for their perceived sins, an American military that Obama and a supine Congress is already weakening to appease our enemies, and an American economy, currently weakened by recession, that Obama and his shameless Congress are leveraging to enervate the American spirit of self-reliance, self responsibility, and liberty. An economy weakened in substantial part because of governmental mandates to banks to provide mortgages to people who were not creditworthy.
Is a man fit to be president of the United States when he embraces Israel’s enemies, is willing to allow a fervently apocalyptic Iran to develop nuclear weapons, bows to a Saudi King and tyrant, abandons newly minted Eastern European allies to the Russian wolf, abandons Japan in the face of North Korean aggression, an aggression backed by China, and disparages America on foreign soil, apologizing to the world for every perceived wrong done by a misguided America? I think not. He is our president for now, and will have to live with that, but we can send a message to him and Congress — we see who you are, we see what you’re doing, and we will hold you accountable in 2010 & 2012.
Let our voices be heard!
Has anyone investigated what it would take to recall Our Senator? Let’s not wait for the next election cycle. Our state constitution has a provision for recalls due to malfeasance or non-feasance. Clearly there has been a dereliction of her senatorial duties when she did not even read the so called stimulus bill and we are all paying the price (ie, the AIG fiasco, etc.) and this trillion dollar budget is another example. Senator Klobuchar is not representing the interests of us, her constituents, when she votes for these things.
I am willing to contribute to a recall fund to hire the necessary attorneys if the Tea Party can organize one.
Let’s not stop with April 15th but take further action!
I’ll be there.
I will be there with as many people as I can get. I am sick and tired of hearing the President talk about us as an unChristian country and spending money like there is no tomorrow. Somehow we need to wake the Democrats up so they do not go along with what the President wants.
Thanks to everyone that had a hand in setting up this event in St. Paul. I’ll be there! Enough is enough. Earlier posts mentioned possibly meeting at MOA to catch a bus. If this is an option, please post.
THanks again – See you at the event on Wednesday!
Lets here it for our current administration in their quick handling of the pirate mess, what kind of concessions will B.O. make to give away the farm this time?
Hello everyone! I have been putting posters up my neighborhood and going door to door with fliers. We NEED a lot of people to be here! So far I have over 50 people that I know are going and the local news is predicting thousands will show up! PLEASE CAMPAIGN FOR THIS!
Wow! Thank you for all your hard work in supporting this!
Yes… thank you so much for your hard work supporting this effort. My wife, two of my sisters and their husbands, are all attending. You’re wise for someone so young. My hat’s off to you.
Myself, my husband, my brother, my dad and mom, and were still asking around will all be there!
Although I feel good about seeing 13 cities now having a Tea Party in MN, I’m a little concerned. It’s better to have fewer cities with strong showing than to have many with only a handful of people attending. Will these other cities have the affect of diluting the message in St. Paul? I hope not. I don’t believe it’s possible to do a successful job of putting one of these together with less than 30 days or so of preparation. And yet, some of these have been added with only about 10 days.
IMO these rallies must be used to get national attention (in a good way), rather than simply allowing us to feel good about ourselves. The only way we can send a message that’s taken the way we want, is if large numbers of middle America show up. If the message is that only a few care, it will send the opposite message and the negative momentum from government we’ve seen in the past 5 months will increase.
Despite having a rally in my own city (it only had 9 days of prep), I plan on attending the St. Paul rally to help insure that the numbers there are large enough to get the press we need.
A lot of the tea parties in the state are using their tea parties to gather people to meet together and then carpool to Saint Paul. The human spirit is an amazing and creative thing.
Why would you think our outstate rallies will dilute the message in St.
Paul? It’s the same message across the Nation whether we drive 30 miles or
300 miles. United We Stand doesn’t necessarily mean shoulder to shoulder in
mass rallies. People in St. Paul think Brainerd is ‘up North’ – sorry
Sunaj, there’s another 6 hours of drive time North before you arrive on the
border. Frankly, we’re sick of being asked to drive to St. Paul every time
there’s a message to shout out. The road goes both ways!
Some of our Tea Parties may not have the combined planning abilities of
200,000 + warm bodies, but those who live outside of the metro area
certainly aren’t stupid. We can put together strong and coherent message
the same as anyone else, even if we have fewer than 30 days lead time. And
no, we may not get the press coverage the St. Paul rally will get, but sorry
to say Sunaj, we in Northern MN want to be heard too and not just lost in
the crowd. Besides, the press doesn’t care anyway so who is wanting to
feel good about himself?
Sorry if I didn’t make myself clear enough. I’d like to have 13 rallies here in MN that were all hugely successful. My concern comes from the late entries. Some with only a couple of days to prepare the event. Specifically, those that are relatively near St. Paul. It shouldn’t be simply about saying were having a rally. We really need to have lots of people show up. I’m afraid that some of these late comers are going to be rallies in name only. The people that may show up at these could actually have added to numbers in a St. Paul rather than make a weak showing that may actually get press simply because it is so weak. I hope that I’ve done a better job of it this time.
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The Majority is NO LONGER SILENT! We need to rise up and say ENOUGH!
I hope you’re right. April 15th will tell the story.
Everyone mail Amy Klobucher (D-MN) some tea bags!! Her address is: 302 Hart Senate Office Building, Washington D.C., 20510
Haven’t heard “our Amy” check in on the pirate mess… do ya’ spose’ she will help come up with ransom money…from the tarp fund?? I hate to get on my soap box but, why in the @#$%*% is that damn raft still drifting around out there!? Has the current administration handcuffed the navy already? Those poor fellas’ on that container ship spent many hours fending off those Somali pukes! Are we to believe that our navy could not get a small fighter group over the top of that incident in the matter of a few hours and taken care of things?? With all the piracy taking place there, it should have 24 hr air cap anyway! Geez, if I make it to the 15th without completely blowing a cog it will be a miracle! I heard Obama is in Vermont…talking about gay marriage…coulda’ been a rumor…
I am a recovering liberal. I admit, my head was in the sand. The recent election and more recent government spending alog with the lack of unbiased media coverage has shaken me out of my liberal hypnotic trance. Looking forward to taking action!! How about this for a slogan to Washington: WAKE UP AND SMELL THE TEA!!!
I love that slogan!!!
This is a movement that crosses ALL part lines…..This is about taxes that we ALL are going to pay. That is what the Tea Party is about. If we are distracted by Dems and Reps, right or left, our voices won’t be heard. We are on a Mission to end the spending in Washington!
The endless credit card is going to come to an end.
Can anyone name an activity that they do that is not taxed in some way?
Oh boy…I was thinking of something…but that is probably taxed in a round a bout way also… keep the fire burning!
Get your Porky Little Amendments OFF ME
Please encourage others to get involved. This is not a “somewhere out there” problem. It is not even just a D.C. problem. It is happening in our own backyards. Right under our noses. I was told by some government officials 5 months ago that I have “NO RIGHTS”. And – they meant it – as they laughed and rubbed it in my face. Only after I hired a lawyer was I allowed to exercise my Constitutional rights of due process. What happens to those that can’t afford lawyers? You guessed it – they have “no rights”. Don’t believe it and don’t allow them to get away with it.
Hey there “another one”…tell me your story…I have real winner also…
It is not appropriate to discuss specifics on this forum – somewhere else though. I want to raise awareness that this can affect anyone that gets caught in the mechanism. After this extremely abusive experience, after playing by all the rules for years, this movement comes at a perfect time. The coming tidal wave of public corruption that is about to happen with all the new money will make my experience all the more common. Take a stand! It is now or never!!
I plan on attending the Tax Day Tea Party at the Capitol. Does anyone have any thoughts about what to expect with parking and also what time should we start to arrive? Any permit issues about folks arriving on the state grounds too early?
If there were permit issues with folks arriving early, it would probably fall under the category of loitering, which would be a city ordinance. However, don’t ‘We the People’ own state land? And wouldn’t your permit be the right to peaceful assembly?
This issue is way too big to eliminate anyone because of partisanship. This is an issue about whether America survives as was when we were born. Is it the same today as it was a year ago? Well, momentum is speeding us in the wrong direction. Every day that goes by we get further and further away from what made America great. The best we can hope for in the immediate future is to slow that momentum down.
We can’t do that if we start to bicker amongst ourselves because of labels.
We must stay focused on the important issues we hold in common. Let’s start with keeping our children out of indentured servitude to the state.
DON’T TREAD ON ME!
Sunaj…I will give ya’ a here-here! Could not agree more… I know many of us out here in “fly over country” from both sides of the isle and all walks of life have had it with the lies and distortions coming out of the snake pit known as D.C. The sun, the moon and the stars all lined up for the messiah to gather his thieves and take us down the road to socialist hell. Before the election, when the “chosen one” was in Berlin…why I don’t know…but anyway…he had 200K plus show up to see him…I told all my “like minded” friends…the last guy that was able to get a turnout with those same numbers in that same place…went on to conquer Europe… in a fashion only a brazen dictator could. It now scares me how B.O. acts like he cannot be stopped… all the executive orders only a tyrant could love. Do you fly the “don’t tread on me” flag? I do!
Yes, It’s the “Gadsden Flag” I fly. See my April 2nd post.
Guess what, folks? Not every person who’s joining this Tea Party is a conservative.
Take a deep breath. And another. Repeat after me:
“Even liberals and progressives are fed up and not gonna take it anymore!”
Ridiculing us is not the way to build this movement, but unfortunately, that’s the way politics are done in this country: divide and conquer. The elites are snickering all the way to the bank while you about “liberal media” and the alleged “liberal agenda.”
I have raised this topic with “The Silent Majority” and various other Minnesota social conservatives in the last 6 months, and not one has engaged me in dialogue. Instead, they ignore me or deride my views. Way to fixate on our differences instead of our commonalities.
Joe,
Thank you for your comment. It is very encouraging to take a deep breath and repeat after you. Let’s stop the madness together.
Thank you Joe! We welcome you to come and join us – well – the majority of whom I am assuming are going to be conservative. Exactly why I am hoping this doesn’t become a partisan party cause it really has nothing to do with that. It is about PRINCIPLES. All the major parties are at fault. There are good people in both parties but unfortunately, they are in the extreme minority. WE WELCOME YOU! I encourage you to read George Washington’s Farewell Address on Yale’s website: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp
He warns the people of the dangers of parties and partisanship – which is natural. This is an unusual time which is exactly why partisanship needs to sit in the last seat at the very back of the bus.
Joe, great comment, been worried about that myself and keep coming to the conclusion that you did, we need people from both parties. I have a “few” liberal friends who have also had it with all the crap that’s gone on. I would love to blame jes’ death-o-crats…but I cannot. Most all of those “things” we have sent to Washington are out of touch. My “local” house Rep. Jim “Overspender” only spent 9 days in Minnesota last year… if I heard right…he and many others have never had to worry about making payroll, filling out layers of paperwork to hire somebody, and a similar heap of paper to fire someone….and then figure out where the money is going to come from to defend yourself in court when the fired employee drags you in there. Lets keep the fight alive!
EVERYONE, GO TO THE TEA PARTIES…….MAKE A SIGN…….BRING LOTS OF FRIENDS….IT WILL BE FUN….YOU’ll NEVER FORGET IT!!!!! This WILL work, and THEY know it! I hear that some of you out there are finding some resistance from local Politicians about having an Event in your town…..EXPOSE THEM ON THE INTERNET!!! Was anyone out there at the REVOLT in Fullerton, CA Mar. 7th? I was……WOW! If you live in a small Town, and can’t get to one of the Major events…HAVE YOUR OWN! Even if only half a dozen of you show up in a Park somewhere…GREAT! Don’t forget to take LOTS OF DIGITAL PHOTOS and get them out on the INTERNET right away! The LA Times IGNORED the Fullerton event (15,000 People). But the thing is, We don’t NEED the MEDIA anymore, We have the Internet and We can tell our OWN stories now! Hell, if outfits like “Acorn” and “MoveOn.org” can do it, SO CAN WE!!!!!!!!!!!…………..
FreedomRanger
Public Service Message from PREMIER Obama……..
COMRADES!!!…is GREAT DAY in PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF AMERIKA!!!!! We will soon have the Money the People need to make…..Improvements. Thank you for your Cooperation…We will be back soon. COMMISSAR GEITHNER has opened an account for your Money. SECRETARY PELOSI will now be Registrar of Voters. We Will be in touch. As you know, we always think only of the PEOPLE!!!!!
FreedomRanger
Some Tea Party organizers are making a huge mistake by making this about President Obama. This is about all our legislators who are not listening and following the constitution.
The issue is bigger than the president. We need to rally for a Fair Tax. Stop government waste, spending and stop the bail outs. I would love to see ordinary citizens given a chance to speak for 5 minutes. Instead of only national speakers and talk show hosts. Lets have 1 hour sessions where anyone who register to speak can get up and speak for 5 mins. This will be a great opportunity for emerging leaders to be recognized. And then we can ask ourselves what we hope to accomplish after all these tea parties.
After all this, I hope there is Tax Reform. So the productive class isn’t tax to death. This is not about being mad. It is about being wise. If people are mad they may do irrational things. The last thing we want is for these Tea Parties to turn violent.
We are not anarchists, we are patriots!!
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See: http://www.fairtax.org
AMEN
KMX –
Your comment is spot on. This protest is about the arrogant overreach by our government beyond any reasonable relationship to our Constitution. It is not just Obama, though Obama plays a major role. It’s about the Democrats who believe the moment has arrived to remake the United States into their ideal: a European-style socialist state… where they are paternalistic shepherds, and we are the flock over whom they watch. And it is about the quisling Republicans who, when they were the majority power in Congress, took little time to betray the conservative principles they were elected to protect. Both parties are to blame for the mess we’re in. Most of our elected officials have no shame, and we need to make them aware — without violence or anger that can be easily dismissed — that the silent majority is awake, and we will hold them responsible for their malfeasance in the upcoming elections of 2010 and 2012.
I am planning on going to one of these parties, i need to pick one. I live 5-6 hours away from most of them. so i would like to pick one that needs more people.
Ufda Kristina….jes’ where do you live if you are 5-6 hours away? We are having one in Brainerd…we have room for you! We have reserved a park/small pavillion for the evening…next to the river and a small lake…unless they jerk the permit or try to squish it some other way like the did in Florida….the city was afraid there would be to big of a turnout, imagine that. How many parts of the constitution did they stomp on there in that big gov’t move??
I am hoping this rally doesn’t get hijacked by a bunch of partisan politicians. Unless they are acting based on PRINCIPLES I don’t think they should be talking. Can anyone assure those of us that are going that this is not going to happen?
I was very surprised to here there’s going to be a Tea Party in Roch….but I’m sooooo very excited…..can’t wait…
Can anyone help me turn this into a facebook invte of some sort?
Here is our facebook event page: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=67817329152
Does that help?
One of the first flags used in the war of independence was the “Gadsden Flag.” It was a yellow flag with a coiled snake centered on it. It has the phrase “DON’T TREAD ON ME” emblazened across it. It’s available for purchase online (Amazon & others). Search on “Gadsden Flag” – or “Don’t Tread On Me”
In 1775 Benjamin Franklin had this to say about the coiled snake on it:
“I recollected that her eye excelled in brightness, that of any other animal, and that she has no eyelids – She may therefore be esteemed an emblem of vigilance – She never begins an attack, nor, when once engaged, ever surrenders: She is therefore an emblem of magnanimity and true courage – As if anxious to prevent all pretensions of quarrelling with her, the weapons with which nature has furnished her, she conceals in the roof of her mouth, so that, to those who are unacquainted with her, she appears to be a most defenceless animal; and even when those weapons are shewn and extended for her defence, they appear weak and contemptible; but their wounds however small, are decisive and fatal; – Conscious of this, she never wounds till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of treading on her. – Was I wrong, Sir, in thinking this a strong picture of the temper and conduct of America?”
I’m bringing this flag with me. I hope others will also see the benefit in having this historic flag as a motto.
“DON’T TREAD ON ME”
Sunaj –
I ordered a Gadsden flag and will “fly” it at the upcoming protest rally. Thanks for reminding me of the flag’s existence and history.
Yes I will be there, everyone should be there. I sm aick of what is going on.
Every time I try to research where the “stimulus” money is going, I find that it was just a way to distribute truckloads of money to NON TAXPAYING individuals and programs. How is it that Americans seem so lethargic about the give-away of our money …. our money is OUR PROPERTY and unless we stop this trend … we will allow government to take any and all of our personal property in the USA.
Hey Washington .. .our constitution wasn’t written to say “the federal government exists to make sure nothing good ever happens to anyone and to make sure nothing bad ever happens to anyone else.” Government is NOT our parent.
How very alarming that our Government so easily strips away legal rights of “Executives” while turning cartwheels to ensure that Gitmo prisoners are granted legal rights.
The insanity must stop! No more stimulus money! No obama telling GM what kind of cars to produce! Keep government out of private industry! Let’s stop government from expanding itself. How about term limits for all of our elected offices? We need to tell obama no universal health care! Hey obama can you nominate one cabinet member who does not owe back taxes? We must demand that we use our own resources to keep us independent from middle eastern and south American oil producers. Stop pushing ethanol! Our gas could be cheaper and if we wanted to we could drive our pickups and suv’s because they are safer than what obama wants us to ride around in! If global warming is killing us, why in the hell am I so cold? No more damn bail outs! Let our voices be heard on these issues and more from our state capitol to Washington. obama and his democrat buddies must here us! That includes all you turn coat rhino’s out there too! We aren’t gonna take no more!
I’m looking forward to attending the Tea Party. I’m mad as a hornet and will be proud to support the constitution in this way. Our framers would be proud.
“Keep your bloodsucking government off my economy!”
I will be there with at least two others….this is an important step in the right direction. Lets use this as a spingboard to help bring Minnesota and the rest of the country back to a smaller government with less spending that is actually for ALL the people. We have no choice but to succeed or the country we love will be lost!
To all who will attend –
I owe you all a great debt, and I want to thank you. I broke my neck in 1983 and was rendered quadriplegic — paralyzed from my neck down at 25. Too young and invincible to waste my money on disability insurance, I ended up in a low-income housing project in Chaska, MN. I recognized that the safety net into which I had fallen existed only because of the values shared by my fellow Minnesotans — you; I shared those same values. I could not go back to my old job (toolmaker), so I enrolled at Normandale Community College and began classes in the fall of 1984. I understood that the safety net you provided was a gift and not a “right.” I pushed myself hard, transferring to the College of St. Thomas, and then graduating and rejoining the workforce in 1990 (full disclosure: the state — you again — helped me with tuition). I returned to St. Thomas and earned a graduate degree in software engineering.
I will be at the tea party (Twin Cities) to protest the unbridled push toward socialism toward which Obama, the Democrats, and their minions are driving us. Like so many of you, I shall be part of the “Silent Majority” no more.
Way to go Wayne – look forward to meeting you there. As you said – the system has a safety net – but too many use the safety net as a hammock – to lay there for months on end and milk the system with no intention of paying it back, feeling sorry for themselves. We need more people like you to take a stand and rise up. You could have easily used your tradgedy as an excuse – but you didn’t. Thank you for not being a part of the Socialist movement. Everyone should have a chance to make something of themselves based on their own merits, talents, and efforts and that will be denied if we keep heading down this dangerous path we are on.
Good for you! Your the type of person this cause needs. Sometimes we feel so hopeless with situations as they are, and to hear what people like you gives more hope to the rest of us who need a kick in the pants sometimes. I have sat back and the only word I can use is “B….” to long, and am trying to make a difference. I have started a 912 Chapter in the Anoka area and have gotten so few responses that I was getting discouraged until I found this site and the people who are responding. Hope to see you at the Tea Party!!!!!
Glad to hear you are organizing in Anoka. I’m in Fridley and would be happy to help!
Judy Ann, what exactly does your 912 Chapter do?
Judy, just wondering where this will be held. I live in Blaine, and don’t really want to go to St. Paul. Please let me know. Thanks!
Wayne, I just read your comments. You are giant standing tall for liberty with your positive attitude and work ethic. I am grateful to do what I can to a real patriot like you!
Will be there!
check out our website!! http://www.americanmajority.org and email us at mn@americanmajority.org
This event needs some volunteers to help make it a successful and peaceful protest against higer taxes and bigger government. If you are interested please contact me at 952-992-0219.
I am going as well. Great to see there will be THOUSANDS there! Enough! They have trounced the Constitution, have made a mockery of the Pledge of Allegiance – you know – “to the Republic for which it (the flag) stands”. Please lookup in the dictionary what a Republic is. April 15th they will hear from us that WE will turn this back into a Republic!
I have been waiting for this. May the powers that be pay attention and change!!
I typically am a pretty easy going person without too much distress about government. However, as a small business owner, this whole socialist agenda is becoming too much to fathem. I can not even begin to start articulating my disgust with our leaders in government. Talk about focusing on self-stimulation…these folks are bankrupting our country at the behest of those that could apparently not care less about it. This country is so great because of the capitalist movement that it was founded upon, not for the fair-seeking liberalism that today seems only satisfied with undermining the greatness of our country by subsidizing laziness and entitlement.
Bring back:
-our language
-our borders
-our wonderful melting pot of hard working, assimilating individuals striving for a better future.
-our work ethic
-our family values
-consequences for actions (accountability)
-a greater good
This list could go on and on. I’ll see you all there!!!!
I did not vote for change….but next time I will.
Ill be there and i am bringing 3 others. Hopefully more but its a start.
We are at a critical turning point in our country. We’ve sat silently waiting to vote, believing we’d be heard. But what happened? We were shown, so clearly, how successful the “Dumbing Down of America’ campaign was. How integrity, honor, and duty are not often seen in our government. How corrupt our politicians are and how easy it is for corrupt businesses to take advantage of this situation.
It’s time to say enough!!! Tell our government to stop rewarding bad behavior…whether poorly run businesses or freeloaders taking advantage of systems that are suppose to ‘help’ people get on their feet! Tell them to stop taking advantage of hardworking individuals who bust their butts to be successful…whether that means being a responsible citizen and working hard to pay monthly bills/taxes or being a well-run businesses that creates jobs!
The time is now to get off our butts and show your support at the Capital, or wherever. We can be silent no more!!!
I agree completely with Mark Mohawk’s commentary and would like to add that any institution that uses tax payer dollars should be required to teach both conservative and liberal positions rather than indoctrinate students with only perspectives from one view.
One example is Global warming, it is taught as a proven science, which it is not, it is a theory with some scientific basis. (Read State of Fear, by Michael Cricton) Many other factors in atmospheric climate change are being ignored and focus is being placed on one small factor of which 4% is attributable to human contribution thus politicians are using this to levy new taxes, which in turn will oppress economic development. Finding ways to save energy is a good thing for multiple reasons, but imposing carbon taxes is oppressive in that politicians can use this ’save the planet’ argument to levy high taxes that will slow economic growth. There is a direct correlation between energy consumption and economic growth. The US uses 25% of the world’s energy, but produces 50% of the global GDP.
The liberal indoctrination of our children doesn’t stop at Global Warming, pretty much every left slanted topic is taught in public schools today. Tax payer funded eduational institutions should not be a platform for this type of brainwashing, both sides should be represented or not taught at all. Both conservative and liberal citizens pay the taxes that fund those institutions and as such one side should not have the right to push their political view points and I would argue that the major propoganda they are aspousing is liberally biased to a large degree.
We do need to start speaking out and I think encouraging citizens to attend events like these Tea Parties is a great way to do that. I have never attended a protest in my life, but it is clear that the fundamentals our country was founded on and the Constitution are under attack by this Executive and Congressional administration and we need to start making our voices heard before we are at a point when they will take away the vary freedoms that allow us to speak out today.
The 1st and 2nd amendments are already under attack and it is early, how many freedoms might we lose if we don’t start speaking out?
Sincerely,
Allen
I couldn’t agree with you more. I don’t really agree with this global warming that they are teaching our children in schools. Certainly, we have some affect on our planet but not to the degree that we are led to believe. It just gives this the Radical OB Administration to put ina Cap and Trade tax get companies to pay more taxes and putting them eventually out of business so that the government can put in their people and destoy our country more. They will never start drilling more here because this so called government we have has so many deals going on with other countries in the Middle East they can not afford to drill. Our country will never truly be free from that kind of Global Rule that we are surely falling under. The only Global anything going on is the step toward One World Order that this G2 is trying to slip under our noses. Go to newsofinterest.tv and watch The Obama Deception.Read and watch both clips one and two. This is not a crazy conspiracy theory. It is slowly developing and our rights as we know them are being chisled away one by one. OB has already stated that we need a civilian army. Does this remind you of another era? And Hussein modeled his Bathe party after Hitler. And if you see something that sends chills down your spine, send that to as many people as you know. WE MIGHT BE HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION!!!! Our rights come from God and if you don’t think that the DEVIL is alive and well on planet earth read the book titled by that line. The Left Behind series, which I have read through twice and if you can get to the end of the first book which starts out slow, you will pick up the next and the next etc. Fictional story based on biblilcal prophecy. Check all this out and you will see even more red.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
Here is the full version
I’m so thankful to have the opportunity to join forces with you all. I will be carrying a sign that says: IT’S THE CONSTITUTION, STUPID! If we were honoring it as we should, we wouldn’t be in this mess. I think all freedom loving Americans need to beat the “Constitution” drum a lot louder, as that document is our rudder. If it is not returned to center stage in the political life of the country and closely adhered to once again, it won’t matter what ship we get on, it’s bound to drift. My hope and prayer is that the tea party events will help us all focus on the urgent need to demand from every politician a respect for, loyalty to, and dogged defense of our founding documents!
I will be present at the rally just as Peter Slater, my relative, was at the original Boston Tea Party in 1773. He was the youngest attender at age 13 and was killed during the rally.
Barbie, how is that possible? Nobody was killed at the Tea Party, and Peter Slater in real life went on to fight in the Revolution.
I sure wish I could attend this event but I will be in St. Paul for another event. My son is being confirmed at the Cathedral that evening along with many other confirmands and their families. This will make the city very busy and crowded, just an FYI. I will look over to the capitol and my prayers will go out to all those patriots attending the teaparty. May our voices be heard. Someone let out a good WOOHOO for me, please! thanks and God Bless America!
mnchange.org will be there
THANK YOU for all of the hard work you are putting in to make this event a success! Silent majority no more!!!
I will be there! It’s comforting to see the “right” side of the spectrum finally coming out of the shadows in MN. Far too long have we been “minnesota nice” and let the loud mouth left wing have their way and say in this state. It’s great the value-minded, hard working, patriots of Minnesota are banding together.
God bless all of you and God bless America!
As former Presidents John and John Quincy Adams being my ancestors, and also having the ancestor of the previouse owner of the land the white house is currently on, I will be there with as many people as I can get to come with me on April 15th. I want my two children to live as free as I have the past 25 years. Lets never forget the reason behind the evening of December 16, 1773 and the three companies of fifty men who dumped the tea into the harbor. We will be heard!
I pledge to be there with at least three others. We may not be able to find powdered wigs but we will have tea and signs.
We had our first tea party when the English government was too much to bear. Its now time to let our elected government know we meant it. Government will not be overbearing!
expect thousands….!!!
I’m the CD 7 for MN and would love to talk to others in this north country about getting our own Northern Iced Tea party going. Come on over to the MN Resistance and lets get in touch and get a move on!!!!
I am organizing a party on the steps of the Ralph Englestad arena Saturday April 25th, 3-5 pm.
Coincides with the conclusion of the 7th CD convention.
Please email me!
Barb
I will be in Florida in body but in St. Paul in spirit. Maybe there will be another one in May
May the people there number 10 to the 5th power.
I’ll be there. Pass it on and get your conservative friends to go! Speak now or forever hold your peace! We could be living under the shadow of this craziness for a long time if we don’t!
Looking forward to joining the masses!
Who is having a tea party on the Iron Range? I will go to one there…
I am e-mailing this link to everyone I know. I will be there with several friends and family members
I too will be there.
We are out of town,but please know that we are there n spirit. We have friends coming from other counties to the tea party. If there is a tea party in our part of Florida I will so being going. Have a great time. I am telling everyone I know and I have quite a gew showing up. WE NEED OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, here’s an idea: why don’t the (we) working people take a day off work; shut down the country and relax … bet Uncle Sam would stop to take a look and listen then; can’t have thos dollars going away.
I will be there, along with as many others that I can
round up. I have witnessed first hand the families that
have grown up on welfare. I have made attempts to help
them find jobs and cars to get off the system and they
find every excuse in the book to just continue to stay
on the system. The people who go to work to support these programs are are fading away simply because we
have created a society of freeloaders! It is unsustainable. SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I did notice the in-depth interviews of the acorn chauffeured idiots and how the lap dog media hung on their every word on the AIG home tour. This is some of the kind of work Acorn does and why the Messiah deemed Acorn worth all that money ear marked from the stimulus package. Another of their liberal diversionary tactics. The avoidance of the lap dog’s coverage of the TEA PARTY movement is just another example of the lack of journalistic integrity we Americans suffer. Which leads back to the universities indoctrination of the young idealistic youth who come to university to make a difference in the world and instead of learning journalistic integrity and the vital need of honest coverage of issues to protect and insure democracy, they are taught of America’s leading roll in all of the worlds troubles. Taught to fight the liberal fight and that the end justifies the means, so to hell with journalistic integrity. The liberals have truly lost their way with their mantra of the end justifies the means in so far as integrity goes. This is a cultural war and we as conservatives have been out maneuvered on all fronts. In the universities, the courts, the media, liberal have control of these three key positions with a great majority. Long ago the liberal movement put into focus how to gain full and long term control of our country by taking over key positions in our society. Professors, Judges, and members of the press have the power to create and mold the members of our society. This is how a few wing nuts though not wired right, over time have gained control of the rest of us and of all common sense. We as conservatives desperately need to come up with a battle plan for the fight to take back our schools, courts, government seats and regain common sense rule. One thing is for sure we need to pay attention to what we are up against. Send our children off to school with their eyes wide open and enable them to fend off the indoctrination. Prevent them from joining the wing nut army in their work, and in their votes. We desperatly need to gain back some journalistic integrity we must demand it! Same for the so called teachers, our children should be taught to report political indoctrination in their class and we should as tax paying parents demand our schools to take action against this. We need to pay attention to the judges who make law from the bench and expose them for what they are, and demand their removal from the bench they are disgracing. And we dam sure need to hold our politicians feet to the coals and demand better. Those who are not wing nuts, are selling their votes and common sense to stay in power at the expense of the country. They need to be exposed for what they are and for the harm they have caused. We should be out raged by all of this! Where is the out rage? Where are the stand up citizens of this country who came from the broad shoulders and strait back bones of our ancestors? I hate to admit it, but by not taking an active roll in fighting hard to stop the wing nuts I am to blame as well. I am done with being complacent, I intend to join the movement to bring back common sense. Just sitting around and wining is surely not good enough, we have lost to the wing nuts. Time we wake up, stand up, and demand an end to this insanity while we still have a country we recognize. Hope to see you at the Tea Party! Mark
Mark, you make a good point that students should be taught to report any form of indoctrination going on in the classroom, but first students and their parents need to understand what that means.
As a middle school teacher, I completely agree with your assertions about what we teach in our schools. It is completely ridiculous that we have students graduating from high school who have no real concept of what the Constitution says. My daughter is told she cannot post signs promoting a church function for Christmas, but pro-abortion students post signs promoting “freedom of choice”. Students are taught that any form of religion in school is unconstitutional, but promoting abortion is free speech. In my own school I see students being taught facts from long ago with no connection to today. There is no call for students to think about that is happening in today’s society. Students are not asked to think about their role in society, they are not taught to consider what the government’s actions mean for us as citizens, let alone for them as individuals. I teach science, but often find myself pointing out the role of government and the role of its citizens as defined by the constitution.
As a nation we need to stand for what we believe in, we MUST protect our Constitution, and we must educate students of their rights and responsibilities. There are great teachers out there who would love to be able to do just that, but understand that we fight against a very ingrained belief that we must accept a liberal point of view while in the classroom.
On April 15th the PEOPLE get a chance to speak out and this teacher WILL be there! God bless America!
It’s time for conservatives to form our own schools. The public school system is turning out liberals. Also, we should only support conservative colleges (if any still exist).
Bethany Lutheran in Mankato is conservative, they supported McCain. I’m sure there must be more, just look hard. April 15th, we will be heard!
Great dialogue!!I am madder than hell as well. I have 3 adult children who live in a bubble and cannot see what is going on and take the attitude of “what happens, happens.” When I mention the things that are going on they just “Enough” Well from those 3 children,I am been blessed with 3 amazing Grandaughters who I fear for their futures. Anyone looking at these blogs needs to go to the website newofinterest.tv and read and watch clips 1 and 2 of The Obama Deception. Most call this a conspiracy theoy but is it? It’s about the Bilderberg Group. If you haven’t heard about it you need to!!!!!!The History Channel just aired on this last night along with the Tri-Lateral Commission and Skull and Bones( Both Bushs are a member of the latter) Most people who think our country is going down the tubes have it wrong. It is going to HELL in a hand basket and being sold out by the Greedy people who want a One World Order. This is no joke. These people forget our First Right came from God!!! I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!!
Judy – “newofinterest.tv” doesn’t work. Can you give me the correct URL? Thanks. Harry
No wonder the federal, state and local governments have such difficulty in forming consensus on legislation. Attitudes such as yours only serves to continue to whittle away the failing credibility of “conservative” voices.
I laugh at arguments saying our students are bathed in “liberal” “indoctrination.” You must not have faith in a students mind or of their parents responsibility to inform their kids of alternative values. The kind which you must undoubtably are an authority. As for college students, if they are such prey to “liberal” thinking, they must be equally weak minded enough to swallow any other views, i.e. “conservative” thinking. Your faith in the apptitude of the American student population is unfortunate.
You should be prepared to back up any thing you assert with some backgound, maybe even a fact. No cheating however; Rush is NOT a primary source. He only reacts to situations.
He has never produced enterprising journalism.
Speaking of the “liberal” bias in the media. Most news organizations are owned by corporate business – huge capitalist, the kind that screwed even you and your 401K.
Regarding the housing crash, don’t attempt an argument about Fannie and Freddie. Bush got them to agree to and attempt to fulfill his ownership society. Search Bush June 2005 Housing.
And your upcoming Tea-bagging party – Read you history about the Boston deal. You’ll find that the argument at the center was the lopsided competition enabled by The British government of, yes, the tea industry, by providing a subsidy to its tea producers, enabling them to sell tea at an artificially low price. The response to thow the goodies of a commercial vessal was a revolt against the sabotage of our markets. Think about that when you complain about our trade deficit. It was a means of “protecting” our markets against the manipulation of the American economy from outside manipulation. So when a fortune five hundred sends your job overseas, It’s because, ironically, your “conservative” administrations let your jobs go and still gave that 500 tax advantages.
Finally, You spelled damn wrong.
Jim
Sorry Jim, I have to reply, just to help set the facts straight and correct a bit of the stereotyping you indulged in….
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Fannie and Freddie: Congress did nothing to control them, a Democratic congress. Bush was a One World type, not a real conservative. Tried to be bipartisan. Obama not making THAT mistake, ha ha !! The Market’s Timed collapse/ One WOrld types involved/do some digging/ including Emanuel who worked there and knew what was going on and did not let that “crisis go to waste”. IT’s complicated, but bottom line: the subprime mortgages should not become OUR burden.
Conservative are not cookie cutter people, don’t rigidly support a party line even in the face of obvious illogic; and we don’t support “FORTUNE 500″ outsourcing necessarily but bottom line: a nation needs business and needs rich people to pay the taxes and provide employment. You can rally against outsourcing/many of us don’t like it. But don’t unconstitutionally “redistribute” wealth, that’s a VERY slippery slope. As is Government firing private sector people. There are other ways…this is the totalitarian way.
The TEA PARTIES cry was taxation without representation. Thats what we have NOW. We are not going to argue about whether all business practices are exquisitely “fair”. Communists were not FAIR, Millions dead. Nobody is fair. Grow up. bottom line: that’s what the colonists objected to, rightly, as they wanted SOME control over their lives. It’s called Freedom.
Media Bias: come on, you have to be blind not to see it by now, it’s blatant. Well, those companies are behind whatever will keep them in control. They support the liberal agenda because they work hand in hand. It’s not clear and simple/ liberal=help the poor not any more !! Now ,it’s helpthem so that they can keep on milking the system as they keep on “helping” don’t you know how that game is played ? its PERVASIVE bottome line; things are not what they seem You don’t seem to understand the power linkages below the rosy Socialist Realism
Conservative thinking: is not a dogma based on emotion that needs to be swallowed, nor is it a faith like cult. its just common sense, read the principles, get acquainted. like; big govt=less individual liberty. I’ve been to college twice over; the bias is EXTROADINARY. We were asked to INTERPRET deTocqueville a certain way or FAIL.The list goes ON and ON.
STudents are not equipped with enough knowledge to fight it off. It’s not about them being weak minded. It’s about constant peer pressure from folks who are sure they have arrived at the truth, and about the lack of respect for original sources and facts, and a concerted effort to equate patriotism with self excoriation and a global citizen mentality. We all are global citizens, but we are a Americans FIRST. This means, we cannot effectively help the world if our house is in shambles. This is the indoctrination: accept “modern” theories or be WRONG.Give up Sovereignty, and accept Marxism in the name of a Global justice. Which will be delivered by the BANKERS IMF WAKE UP !!! THEY will control the GLOBAL PARADISE. And there will be NO recourse, as Nation states will no longer have local authority or the will to rebel or any identity based on ANYTHING other than financial concerns. ORWELL/BIG TIME. bottom line: what makes you think parents are all powerful to counterract all this? Are YOU able to counterract this ? Or wasting your time fighting “conservatives ” here ?
Finally, spelling should not be an issue of pride on blogs like this. Clear minds go for the MEANING, and don’t worry so much about the APPEARANCE. THey look behind the spelling, and the rhetoric, for truth…..
Well said; thank you.
One Solution: Get involved where you can and vote the nuts out of Washington.
The two votes in this household support a grass roots effort to limit the stupid leadership and their new laws recently enacted. This must be turned around or our great country is one for the history books. Our chances to reverse and get back on tract are great, lets vote the libs out of office. We also like the idea of taking a bus over to the captial from MOA on April 15th. Will someone step forward and get that rolling?
It is about time we have a community has a tea party to show there discuss and disbelief in the government
We will be there with grandkids in tow. Found this quote in a letter to the ed in a local newspaper. This is exactly what the current lawmakers have forgotten to adhere to.
Quote by the late Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931-2005
You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is
going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation.
You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
I love that. We should put this on as many posters as possible or as a backdrop so everyone can see it at the teaparty. I’d be willing to help make that happen.
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Those Adrian Rodgers quotes ARE great for posters. Also, is
Don’t spread my wealth, spread my work ethic.
The quote from the late Dr. Adrian Rogers should not only be put on all posters at the rallys, but how about on billboards across our nation. I’m tired of paying for someone to reap the benifits of my hard earned money when they are very capable of going out and working themselves. To me welfare really needs to be revamped as well as foodstamps. Give coupons again. Did you know that our food stamp system now uses cards that can be used like credit cards and can be used for anything and I mean anything other than food like alchol, cigarettes and even gambling.
Has there been any thought about a bus leaving the south metro area like from Mall of America? It would be a lot easier to climb aboard a bus like we can do for the State Fair which goes directly to the event.
That’s a great IDEA. One from the North Suburbs and South Suburbs. Anyone have any other ideas that can get this going
I looked into getting a bus and the cost is $305. I wanted to do one in the Elk River area. Of course the cost is the issue. We could charge people but it is risky in knowing whether people would come or not.
I’m so glad your having this event. I’m going to pass the info on to everyone I know.
woot party!!! take that washington!!! tell all your friends!!!
I am down here in Arizona, but wish you all well in this VERY patriotic expression of the public outcry over the moronic actions of our “so-called leaders”……Stand Tall!!
Let the silent Majority be heard from! I am so glad of an opportunity to join with others in an undeniably visible forum that hopefully will make some waves to stop the insanity!
Hello everyone! I will be there as well. I can’t wait!
We need to unite, to save our Democracy — bring on the tea.
It is a Republic, NOT a democracy. This is important to remember. A democracy is run by mob rule which can not be allowed. Look at the AIG mob. The workers that received the bonuses did nothing wrong. They just signed an employment and compensation contract, just as any other working person has done.
I want to be there! I may be only one person, but lots of “one persons” make a force to be reckoned with! See you on 4/15/09… don’t forget to mail a teabag to P-BO, Amy Klobuchar and your congressman/woman!
You won’t be alone, trust me!
We will have at least 1,000 but I know it will be a great turnout…
There will be lots of us who are just one, but together we make a revolution!! I’m coming to MN from Alabama for Easter and staying until after the Tea Party!! I do live up in MN from June till Dec 1st every year so hopefully we will all meet up for a lot of tea parties over the summer and fall!! yeHa! see ya there Susie!
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I’ll be there! I’m going to try to get my daughters and their husbands to be there, too. I hope this turnout is HUGE. See all of you on Tea Party Day.
I’ll be there! We need to stop this nonsense!
I am sooo there!
Thanks a million for taking the lead to get this organized.
Any idea’s where a person can park? Don’t park at Sears across the street they will tow. Two years ago I took a global warming freak to the tow lot being a nice Conservative and all.
I believe you can park at the Sears parking lot but you need to pay $5 for a permit. Where exactly you get this permit, I do not know. I am looking for a ride to the event. I hate driving in St. Paul. If you know or hear of anyone going from the Norther Suburbs to carpool with let me know.
CAN’T believe the GWF (global warming freak) would even have been driving a car,,,much less ask you for a ride. I missed the miracle.
Did you hear that the ACORN is sending people to pose as tea party participants and they then plan on creating distractions to make it seem as the people going to these Tea parties are total wackos??? Rush talked about it on his show the other day.